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wilder
12-19-2005, 12:19 AM
so what happen?

be as spoilery as possible
do they get into on other community around the world?
or is it just Capal and Vimary?

cheers


wilder

Jürgen Hubert
12-19-2005, 01:31 AM
Tribe 8 2e has the entire metaplot until the finish. I don't have the book with me, but IIRC there will be a war with Hattan later on...

wilder
12-19-2005, 01:52 AM
hmmm i was planning on buying Adrift on the river of Dream first before i get anything else .

is it just me or recently DP9 rarely churned out RPG stuff.

Praetorian
12-19-2005, 03:56 AM
DP9's rpg dept is brain dead. It might technically still have a heart beating- but don't expect a revival short of an act of G-D.

Bahama'at
12-19-2005, 05:01 AM
Since there hasn't been a Tribe 8 product in about 3 years, and the last one had the entire plot and metaplot spelled out in it, with broad hypothetical strokes carrying the setting elements sometimes centuries after the official "end" - I think it's safe to say that there is no metaplot.

In the words of Exalted plot-deniers, it's now just "historical information" :D

As for new product - Praetorian has it right.

- Ma'at

Adarael
12-19-2005, 06:47 AM
Oddly, I was just going through my huge stack of Tribe 8 books last week, hefting each individual one and remembering how I used them, what I liked, what I didn't like. It remains the best RPG nobody plays, IMO. But I admit, I'm biased, because I really like some of the authors.

Currently, the Tribe 8 metaplot is in limbo in much the same way as the game itself is in limbo. The line is not officially cancelled, but it's unsupportable to expland upon and continue with. The intent was for a couple of important things to happen. In no particular order:

1) The Lady of Rhanto was going to become a major player, not in a brute force sense but in a 'play everybody against everybody, including the Z'bri of Hattan'. Because the Lady is a saavy, saavy critter.

2) Hattan was going to be the next big thing. Hattan was going to make Capal look like kids' stuff in terms of the numbers and entrenchment involved. Neccessarily, the final resolution would be coming much later.

3) The Children of Hom (Fallen-born) were going to be an important thing. HOW important was a matter of debate, but the general idea was that they would start manifesting eminences that nobody else had, as the 8th Tribe truly came into its' own, and started having kids that were raised outside of the traditional Tribal Eminence/Fallen Outlook way of defining 'self.'

4) I know Brand was always looking to throw the Nomads around like candy, but I have no idea how much of that was him playing with fun toys vs. what he'd actually write.

Brand_Robins
12-19-2005, 11:46 AM
4) I know Brand was always looking to throw the Nomads around like candy, but I have no idea how much of that was him playing with fun toys vs. what he'd actually write.

Very little that happened in our games was anything like the actual metaplot. I always used it as an idea mine rather than a road map, and so you guys went way the hell to the left of center.

Plus you were all nuts.

Bahama'at
12-19-2005, 11:47 AM
Very little that happened in our games was anything like the actual metaplot. I always used it as an idea mine rather than a road map, and so you guys went way the hell to the left of center.

Plus you were all nuts.Your group too?

- Ma'at

Brand_Robins
12-19-2005, 12:04 PM
Your group too?

Yea. I have a feeling most of the really good Tribe 8 groups were a little nuts.

Adarael
12-19-2005, 04:21 PM
That's kinda what I figured. I'm still shocked Elatha is in a printed book, personally.

And yes, I'm pretty sure Tribe 8 takes a severely cracked group to run well. The best Tribe 8 session I ever ran (according to the players) I did after 2 days of no sleep and while hung over.

Bahama'at
12-19-2005, 05:44 PM
That's kinda what I figured. I'm still shocked Elatha is in a printed book, personally.Elatha is a nice piece of work, and when we revised the latter bits of the metaplot his unique nature proved useful (since he's pretty much everything right about the world utterly inverted, he makes a nice demiurge if you have to look at the cosmology gnostically).

- Ma'at

Vasco Brown
12-19-2005, 06:23 PM
Elatha is a nice piece of work, and when we revised the latter bits of the metaplot his unique nature proved useful (since he's pretty much everything right about the world utterly inverted, he makes a nice demiurge if you have to look at the cosmology gnostically).

- Ma'at

Er. I mostly have the first edition books, and I haven't heard of this Elatha before. He sounds interesting. Please enlighten me? :o

WayneLigon
12-19-2005, 06:28 PM
The one male god they had, the one that died. Was it ever revealed who killed him? I always thought it was one of the other female deities.

Arbane the Terrible
12-19-2005, 06:33 PM
The one male god they had, the one that died. Was it ever revealed who killed him? I always thought it was one of the other female deities.

I thought that was Joshua? (The one male Fatima.)

King of Old School
12-19-2005, 07:31 PM
The one male god they had, the one that died. Was it ever revealed who killed him? I always thought it was one of the other female deities.
I believe Joshua was killed by Joan (at Tera Sheba's urging) while he was engaged in battle with Prince Tibor.

KoOS

Wil
12-19-2005, 07:32 PM
The Fold is destroyed through a ritual the that involves freeing the Z'bri and Fatimas from their physical forms, allowing the Sea of the Lost to empty and all of the souls of the dead to cross over.

Wil
12-19-2005, 07:36 PM
I believe Joshua was killed by Joan (at Tera Sheba's urging) while he was engaged in battle with Prince Tibor.

KoOS

Actually, I remember a strong suggestion that it was Joan's Shieldbearer actually betrayed Joshua, distracting him at a critical moment so that Tibor could strike. I wish I could dig up the reference...

Brand_Robins
12-19-2005, 07:49 PM
Er. I mostly have the first edition books, and I haven't heard of this Elatha before. He sounds interesting. Please enlighten me? :o

Elatha was an unholy mix of human and Z'bri that lived in Rhonto. He first showed up in Adrift on the River of Dream, and later became a part of the metaplot.

Vasco Brown
12-19-2005, 08:16 PM
Elatha was an unholy mix of human and Z'bri that lived in Rhonto. He first showed up in Adrift on the River of Dream, and later became a part of the metaplot.

You know I've been meaning to pick that up for a while now... :D

The Fold is destroyed through a ritual the that involves freeing the Z'bri and Fatimas from their physical forms, allowing the Sea of the Lost to empty and all of the souls of the dead to cross over.

Holy crap! :eek:

Does that mean that all the souls are fully reincarnated, or are we talk uber-flood-of-zoms here?

Wil
12-19-2005, 08:23 PM
No reincarnation, they cross over to the realm of Spirit where they belong - I guess that puts them back into the cycle to be reincarnated. There's mention that there are still plenty of Zoms and other problems, the legacy of the damage to the Great Architecture.

Bahama'at
12-19-2005, 08:56 PM
Er. I mostly have the first edition books, and I haven't heard of this Elatha before. He sounds interesting. Please enlighten me? :oElatha first pops up in Adrift on the River of Dream (the magic sourcebook, and one of the last ones Brand's group worked on). Basically a Frankenstein's monster attempt by the Melanis of the city to "make" a Nomad - using, among other bits, the heartstone of a Z'bri, the soul of a Tribal (one who had wandered near the city), a Keeper and other Melanis-y bits.

They succeeded, kind of (like most Z'bri "successes"). But the result turned out to be a lot more powerful than they planned and it basically can kick their collective butts (in the city), so basically the Melanis technically still run the city but stay out of their "pet project's" way.

In Adrift it almost wipes out the narrators and would have if not for the intercession of a very high-order spirit - and all it can do is help them get away from Elatha.

- Ma'at

edit: the recipe for an Elatha, courtesy of Brand via Adrift... take one powerful Melanis Lord. Chain it to a serf tortured to the point of awakening (into a Dreamer, ala the Serf-Dreamer in Capal and the proto-Fatimals) during the First Liberation, messily insert heartstone ripped from a Nomad. Sit back, blast the whole thing with Sundering until it starts to move and serve with rice.

wilder
12-19-2005, 09:30 PM
so does this mean tribe 8 line ends with conquering capal?

Wil
12-19-2005, 09:46 PM
so does this mean tribe 8 line ends with conquering capal?

It depends on what you mean by "ends".

If you mean the last setting locale to receive a large amount of detail, the answer is "Yes".

If you mean that's where the story ends, the answer is "No".

You have to understand that Tribe 8 2nd edition changes quite a few things about Tribe 8 - for instance, moving the default setting from Vimary to Capal. It also spells out the entire planned metaplot, all the way to the end.