[WoW] So i wwant to grind faction for an undead mount

[D. Archon]

As a troll, i realize i need Exalted status to get the Undead mount. Now, my understanding is in order to gain status with a faction, you need to do quests, and there are material turnins as well (IIRC, there's a wool cloth quartermaster, for example).

Someone mentioned that the AQ turnins also give you faction, but from what i can tell by looking at Thott, all the turn-ins are in Orgrimmar (though i've seen a Troll commendation officer in TB).

Is the process as follows: "You turn in material and get medals. Give medals to commendation officer, get faction based on the race of the CO you give the medals to."?

If so, where is the undead comendation officer?

[bv728]

If so, where is the undead comendation officer?

There's one in each capital. And right now, it's the best way to grind faction available.

[Iceberg3k]

I want to grind faction also, for a nightsaber mount.

[D. Archon]

There's one in each capital. And right now, it's the best way to grind faction available.
so there's one in OPrgrimmar then? That's good to hear.

I want to grind faction also, for a nightsaber mount.

That would be sweet.:cool:

so, i know where to get copper, and tin. Where's a good place to farm wool and silk for level 29s?

[Nokura]

so, i know where to get copper, and tin. Where's a good place to farm wool and silk for level 29s?

Wool? Anywhere where there are lots of humanoids, can't think off the top of my head.

Silk? As above, but when you're ten levels higher :D - silk doesn't drop of mobs a lvl 29 can regularly take down. And also, because of starting at low Rep with Undercity, grinding to Exalted at lvl 29 will take you forever. The whole Exalted to get a non-racial mount thing is primarily designed for high levels characters.

Just so you know, to get to Exalted with Undercity you need at least 18,000 rep (I think). When you hand in the quest for silk bandages (20 of them) you get one commendation, that gets you 75 Rep. That means you have to do the quest 240 times, which means 4800 silk. You got some spare time on your hands?

A better idea for now is to do every quest you can for someone from the Undercity faction, these will net you more Rep at this stage of the game.

[RemyDuron]

Wool? Anywhere where there are lots of humanoids, can't think off the top of my head.

Silk? As above, but when you're ten levels higher :D - silk doesn't drop of mobs a lvl 29 can regularly take down.
Not true. I find silk drops pretty regularly for my 30 warlock.

I farmed the Satyrs are Night Run (in Ashenvale) for a long time (from 26-30) and silk drops pretty regularly off them. Wool does too.

Now, to turn in commendations for reputation with the undead, you need to go to Undercity. I don't know where the guy is, but he's not in Orgrimmar. You turn the raw materials in at Orgrimmar, and then take the commendations and turn them in in Undercity.

Now, the first time you turn in a raw material to the war supplies guys, you get 10 medals. Then, when you turn in that material again, you get only one medal. You can turn in one medal for 5 rep, or 10 for 75 rep. So... you've got quite a ways to go.

[J Arcane]

In most cases, there's also mobs you can kill that will give you rep straight up.

You'll have to look about for it though.

[Sixten]

Well, heck, he's helping the war effort! If not for people grinding like this, how else are we gonna get those gates open? :p

[IceShadow]

Now, to turn in commendations for reputation with the undead, you need to go to Undercity. I don't know where the guy is, but he's not in Orgrimmar. You turn the raw materials in at Orgrimmar, and then take the commendations and turn them in in Undercity.
That's not true. There's an Undercity rep in with all the people that will take the goods who you can hand commendations to.

[IceShadow]

Well, heck, he's helping the war effort! If not for people grinding like this, how else are we gonna get those gates open? :p
Especially with 10000 lean wolf flanks! Which is a recipie you can only get from a wandering vendor in Desolace!

[Sixten]

Now, to turn in commendations for reputation with the undead, you need to go to Undercity. I don't know where the guy is, but he's not in Orgrimmar.
I'm 90% sure that I turned in my signets to the undead guy in Org. (There is ALSO one in the Undercity, to be sure.) Look for the guys with the blue "?" over their heads. The troll commendation officer is near Thrall's hall, but I'm pretty sure the undead officer is standing right on that row in the Valley of Spirits with the collectors.

[Sixten]

Especially with 10000 lean wolf flanks! Which is a recipie you can only get from a wandering vendor in Desolace!You're pretty bitter about that, aren't you? ;)

Were you hoping for some recognition for the Company at the end, by the way? Or do you just want all of us out there farming wolves to feel your pain? (Sir, not that there's anything wrong with that, sir!)

[IceShadow]

Naw, I was just griping cuz I kept passing the vendor in Desolace. Three or four times.

After I'd already sat and waited 40 minutes for him to show up. :mad:

No one else has to farm these, and even if Blacksky Company single-handedly turned in the remaining 9000+ flanks that the Horde has to turn in, we wouldn't get any special commendation. So there's no real benefit, unless you want to.

I just figured I'd bitch and hand out the recipie as I can. :D

[D. Archon]

Just so you know, to get to Exalted with Undercity you need at least 18,000 rep (I think). When you hand in the quest for silk bandages (20 of them) you get one commendation, that gets you 75 Rep. That means you have to do the quest 240 times, which means 4800 silk. You got some spare time on your hands?

A better idea for now is to do every quest you can for someone from the Undercity faction, these will net you more Rep at this stage of the game.

Well. i was thinking a combination of Copper, Tin, Wool, and Silk. Unless there is a difference between the Rep you get for a particular turn-in, then maybe i'll just grind out the Copper Run in Durotar for a few days (man, that sounds about as entertaining as watching paint dry:( ). I can fill up on copper (leaving behind as much as possible, i could probably carry about 20-30 stacks of the stuff at a time). Wool and Silk would be useful because i need them for engineering anyway (stupid engineering needing 5 different types of ingredients per recipe), and i can at least level slowly while getting silk off the Galak in Thousand Needles, and also do a little mining for stuff like iron.

Hmm.

I really want that mount, though, and pounding some quests would make for a nice break.

So ,what would be a good strat to get what i want in the least amount of time possible?

[D. Archon]

Naw, I was just griping cuz I kept passing the vendor in Desolace. Three or four times.

After I'd already sat and waited 40 minutes for him to show up. :mad:

No one else has to farm these, and even if Blacksky Company single-handedly turned in the remaining 9000+ flanks that the Horde has to turn in, we wouldn't get any special commendation. So there's no real benefit, unless you want to.

I just figured I'd bitch and hand out the recipie as I can. :D

Heh, but we can brag about it to the other guilds, for what that's worth.:D

[J Arcane]

Also, I'm pretty sure you can still get rep gains from doing older quests, so even those ones where the NPC has long since stopped showing the little ! symbol, will still at least give you some rep with that faction.

As an example, I've got a couple friends on Kilrogg who're 55+, who've been running about in Ashenvale doing quests there to get a better rep with Darnassus.

[Sixten]

even if Blacksky Company single-handedly turned in the remaining 9000+ flanks that the Horde has to turn in, we wouldn't get any special commendation.
That's a shame. 'Cause if Blizzard can track the flow of illicit gold well enough to rescind the items bought with it, then they should be able to track war effort turn-ins. And I would have to think that getting the guilds competing on this would be fun.

[RemyDuron]

I'm 90% sure that I turned in my signets to the undead guy in Org. (There is ALSO one in the Undercity, to be sure.) Look for the guys with the blue "?" over their heads. The troll commendation officer is near Thrall's hall, but I'm pretty sure the undead officer is standing right on that row in the Valley of Spirits with the collectors.
I guess I'm wrong then. It's just that I've never seen anything but the Orc and Troll guys in Orgrimmar. I've seen a Tauren guy in Thunderbluff. So I assumed peoples turn-in guys were in their "starting" city (I know, you don't really "start" in the three cities, but each race is attached to one from the start, Troll and Orc to Org, Tauren to ThunderBluff, Undead to UC).

[Rob Lowry]

My dwarf is currently grinding rep for Darnassus so I can get a cat mount as well.. I finally got through the 12000 rep for Honored and am now working on the 21000 in Revered to make it to Exalted.

Need to farm about 290 stacks of runecloth to do it, or 29000 stacks of linen :) I suspect it will still be a bit before I get there, especially since I keep taking time off to go grind Furbolg so I can get to Revered with Timbermaw for the last leather pattern I need from them.

[IceShadow]

That's a shame. 'Cause if Blizzard can track the flow of illicit gold well enough to rescind the items bought with it, then they should be able to track war effort turn-ins. And I would have to think that getting the guilds competing on this would be fun.
True, but if they were going to, they would've mentioned it already, I think.

[J'Dai]

Just generally speaking, make sure your desired mount is not limited by race. An example of this is that ONLY Gnomes and Dwarves can get Mechnostriders... :)

[IceShadow]

And Tauren can only ride Kodos and Wolves.

...

I really want a wolf. :(

[J'Dai]

And Tauren can only ride Kodos and Wolves.

...

I really want a wolf. :(

I can see Blackbraid and Ednae, spending their Social Security checks, showing pictures of their grand-Taurens and STILL grinding away for a Wolf mount. :p

[IceShadow]

"I brought it to h-ya! Fourty full stacks of mooncloth, I brought!

"...

"What? RUNEcloth? Why didn'tcha speak up! My hearing ain't what it usedta be, yanno..."

[D. Archon]

A better idea for now is to do every quest you can for someone from the Undercity faction, these will net you more Rep at this stage of the game.

Actually, here's a question again:\

How can i tell what faction i get from a quest-giver? Is it dependent on race, or zone, or what?

[Sixten]

True, but if they were going to, they would've mentioned it already, I think.
No, you're right. Just wishful thinking on my part.

(In the grand tradition of the official fora: "They have all of these programmers that we pay for sitting around looking at pron! Why can't one of them spend the 2.35 minutes to implement this feature?! I'm cancelling my account!")

[Sixten]

How can i tell what faction i get from a quest-giver? Is it dependent on race, or zone, or what?
Presumably, the same faction listed in the quest-giver's tooltip.

[D. Archon]

Presumably, the same faction listed in the quest-giver's tooltip.

I feel pretty dumb...i hardly ever read the tooltip.:o

[Sixten]

Heh. No worries. I, on the other hand, always noticed the tooltip, but could never figure out why all of these people had factions listed there.... :)

[Rob Lowry]

I just look at my Combat window, which I have showing faction gains.

Seeing my reputation go up by 75 with Darnassus makes me happy.
Seeing that I still need 20,000 rep to hit Exalted makes me cry :(

[wdarkk]

I bought most of my runecloth from the AH, then made about 75% of my money back by d/eing the greens I got.

[woodsmoke]

Now, the first time you turn in a raw material to the war supplies guys, you get 10 medals. Then, when you turn in that material again, you get only one medal. You can turn in one medal for 5 rep, or 10 for 75 rep. So... you've got quite a ways to go.

That's odd. When I turned in my second stack of medium leather in IF with my main, I got 3 medals. I continued getting 3 for every stack thereafter, as well. I haven't turned in a second stack of light or thick leather yet, though, so it may be that you get different amounts for different materials, depending on the item level.

It may also be worth noting (emphasizing?) that you get that stack of 10 medals for each first donation you make. So while the amount received decreases with your second stack of copper bars, you can turn in a first herb stack and gain the full benefit of a "first time" donation.

I'm also taking advantage of the AQ war effort to try to grind my Hunter's reputation with Stormind up. She's quite a ways to go (about 5/6 of the way to Honored, IIRC), and I have no illusions of this being the "I win" button that magically grants her a horse mount, but it should make for a hell of a jump in what her progress would normally be. Lucky for me, she's level 46, so light, medium and thick leather are all quite easy to come by.

[Sixten]

Not to beat a dead horse or anything, but since I'm logged in right now, in Orgrimmar... she's the last NPC on the right in the Hall of Materials. At the far end of the cluster of metal collectors.

[bubbles]

5 medals for 20 silk (EDIT: silk bandages) makes that a good way to go...

[Melle]

Yes, the first turn-in of any particular type always nets you 10. After that you will notice that it turns into a blue question mark repeatable turn-in instead of a gold exclamation quest. At this point the reward is scaled to the level of what you turn in, with copper at 1, thorium at 10 and various others at 3, 5 or 7.

[Iceberg3k]

Not to beat a dead horse or anything, but since I'm logged in right now, in Orgrimmar... she's the last NPC on the right in the Hall of Materials. At the far end of the cluster of metal collectors.
Was that pun intentional?

Personally, my goal is to get a cat for my epic mount, I don't realistically think I'll be at even Revered, let alone Exalted, with Darnassus in time to get it at 40.

[Murglor]

Save your commendations. Do not, do not, do not turn them in until you are already past the midpoint of Revered. You will receive "spillover" reputation gain with every Horde faction for completing major quests for any Horde faction, but only through the midpoint of Revered. You might as well maximize your quest reputation and minimize the amount or reputation you need to gain via actual resource expenditure.

Edit: My human warrior rides a Swift Stormsaber. I've done the reputation grind before - I started questing in Darnassus at level one, cleared every Darnassus-related quest I could find through the entire game, stockpiled Morrowgrain on my higher-level rogue, etc. I still wound up hitting 60 and camping Runecloth on the Auction House before I finally hit Exalted. The cloth turnin quests are incredibly helpful, and the higher-rep AQ stuff even more so, but it's an awfully long haul. Make Exalted a goal for your epic mount.

[IceShadow]

Save your commendations. Do not, do not, do not turn them in until you are already past the midpoint of Revered. You will receive "spillover" reputation gain with every Horde faction for completing major quests for any Horde faction, but only through the midpoint of Revered. You might as well maximize your quest reputation and minimize the amount or reputation you need to gain via actual resource expenditure.

Edit: My human warrior rides a Swift Stormsaber. I've done the reputation grind before - I started questing in Darnassus at level one, cleared every Darnassus-related quest I could find through the entire game, stockpiled Morrowgrain on my higher-level rogue, etc. I still wound up hitting 60 and camping Runecloth on the Auction House before I finally hit Exalted. The cloth turnin quests are incredibly helpful, and the higher-rep AQ stuff even more so, but it's an awfully long haul. Make Exalted a goal for your epic mount.
This is assuming that the turnin-quest for commendations will be available indefinately.

[D. Archon]

This is assuming that the turnin-quest for commendations will be available indefinately.

I suspect that once the gates are open, the quests are gone. Only a suspicion, of course.

[Sixten]

I'd think that the commendation officers would stick around for a couple of days, at least, to give people who weren't logged on right then a chance to turn in their last signets.

Plus, has anyone found the scepter yet? (Or whatever that other part of the event was.)

[Ulgrod]

In case it has not been mentioned - make sure you turn in the medals in stacks of tens. Don't do them in singles.

[bv728]

I'd think that the commendation officers would stick around for a couple of days, at least, to give people who weren't logged on right then a chance to turn in their last signets.

Plus, has anyone found the scepter yet? (Or whatever that other part of the event was.)

Most of the servers have at least several pieces of the scepter, if not the whole thing. A single raid-guild can get it; it would take about 7 raids or so, as I recall.

[wdarkk]

I suspect that once the gates are open, the quests are gone. Only a suspicion, of course.

No, I'm pretty sure they'll stick around, since blizzard completed (or rather, flagged as complete) the quests on the test server before it was opened.

[D. Archon]

In case it has not been mentioned - make sure you turn in the medals in stacks of tens. Don't do them in singles.

Why is that?

[wdarkk]

Why is that?

Turning in singles nets you about 2/3 the rep of turning them in ten at a time.

[bv728]

Why is that?

A stack of 10 trades in for 75 Reputation.
10 traded in one at a time nets 50 Reputation.

[D. Archon]

A stack of 10 trades in for 75 Reputation.
10 traded in one at a time nets 50 Reputation.

Got it. Good to know.:)

Does anyone know what the numbers are for faction levels, or can post a link here with that info? Also, can trolls ride those horses with the flaming hooves (nightmares, i believe?). I don't want that skeletal horse, it looks silly.:rolleyes:

[IceShadow]

Got it. Good to know.:)

Does anyone know what the numbers are for faction levels, or can post a link here with that info? Also, can trolls ride those horses with the flaming hooves (nightmares, i believe?). I don't want that skeletal horse, it looks silly.:rolleyes:
Only if the troll is a warlock, since that's a warlock mount.

I don't think trolls can be warlocks, though.

[Ulgrod]

Nope that mount is Warlock only. Its summoned, costs mana and does not take up a pack space nor use training.

If you are going to do an undead mount then it will be the skeletal one.

Got it. Good to know.:)

Does anyone know what the numbers are for faction levels, or can post a link here with that info? Also, can trolls ride those horses with the flaming hooves (nightmares, i believe?). I don't want that skeletal horse, it looks silly.:rolleyes:

[nonsense]

Nope that mount is Warlock only. Its summoned, costs mana and does not take up a pack space nor use training.

If you are going to do an undead mount then it will be the skeletal one.

If it makes you feel better, by the time you ARE exalted, you'll probably be level 60 anyway, and will qualify for the Epic Skeletal Horsie... which is an entirely different kettle of kickass fish.

[wdarkk]

Got it. Good to know.:)

Does anyone know what the numbers are for faction levels, or can post a link here with that info? Also, can trolls ride those horses with the flaming hooves (nightmares, i believe?). I don't want that skeletal horse, it looks silly.:rolleyes:

IIRC:
Neutral -> Friendly is 3000
Friendly -> Honored is 6000
Honored -> Revered is 12000
Revered -> Exalted is 21000

That's a lot of tokens there.

[D. Archon]

Nope that mount is Warlock only. Its summoned, costs mana and does not take up a pack space nor use training.

If you are going to do an undead mount then it will be the skeletal one.

Crap. *sigh* I don't like the skeletal ones.

[IceShadow]

Crap. *sigh* I don't like the skeletal ones.
Even the Epic ones? With the glowy eyes and smoke effects and such?

[D. Archon]

Even the Epic ones? With the glowy eyes and smoke effects and such?

You mean these? http://wowvault.ign.com/travel/images/gwarhorse.jpg

Nope, don't like those either.

This (http://wowvault.ign.com/travel/images/felsteed.jpg) is the one i'm talking about, but alas, it is out of reach. I tohught the felsteed was an undead mount because i always saw undead riding it. Guess i'll grab a kodo instead. I think the raptor just looks dumb.

[IceShadow]

You mean these? http://wowvault.ign.com/travel/images/gwarhorse.jpg

Nope, don't like those either.

This (http://wowvault.ign.com/travel/images/felsteed.jpg) is the one i'm talking about, but alas, it is out of reach. I tohught the felsteed was an undead mount because i always saw undead riding it. Guess i'll grab a kodo instead. I think the raptor just looks dumb.
If I were you, I'd get one anyway, and then work toward a Kodo as a level 60 mount. Walking everywhere sucks...and it's not like the raptors can't be replaced.

And the 90g you spend won't mean anything to you by the time you can ride a Kodo, trust me. :)

[J'Dai]

I feel your pain - I hate the Mechnostrider (I call it my "Bondo Birdie" since it's Unpainted).

It's just a shame that this was not available for a test drive:
http://img185.echo.cx/img185/1826/gnomemount5fh.jpg