[Guild Wars - Order of the Keetom] Where next?

[Tetsuki]

Hi,

For those not in the know, Order of the Keetom is your neighbourhood friendly casual Guild Wars guild for members of OGO. (PM me if you want in!)

Actually, we're really casual. So much so, that we've got less than 10 members, and that includes two of my accounts :o

So, I think it's time to talk about what we want to do with this guild. Here's a few options:

1) I am quite happy to keep the guild open as a 'flag of convenience' for casual gaming. As in, membership says "I'm from RPG.net, I'm a casual player and I'm not an asshat." Once we get a nice distinctive cape, this will help RPG.net gamers from more active guilds to notice us in-game. However, it seems a shame to have a guild and not actively do anything with it.

2) We use the guild as a focus for special events, which we organise on this forum. We can issue full guild invites and/or guest passes for anyone who wants in on the events. (Note that this may not work for members of serious PvP guilds, as it may fall foul of ANet's "anti-smurfing" rules - can anyone from such a guild enlighten me on this?) If we have enough events, people may want to stay with the guild, and we grow that way.

3) We open up the guild outside of RPG.net, and invite anyone who wants in, as long as we know them well enough in or out of game to know that they are likely to be a nice person. If we go this way, I'd prefer to officer up anyone who wants to recruit, than issue all the invites myself. Also, I think we should at least have a minimal code of behaviour so we don't get any culture clash.

4) Anything else you can think of.

Please do chip in, whether you're already a member, interested in joining, or someone who's already in a guild but would like to do a special event. Also, any hard-earned advice from anyone who's been down this path before is always welcome.

Thanks!

- Doug

[Mr. Sanity]

I'm fine with any and all of those options. The times that I've come across other guild members online has resulted in some fun, tard-free gaming. :)

In terms of special events, what did you have in mind? I'm still a bit of a newbie, having never gotten a character to 20 (though I'm getting close).

[Xenon_Wulf]

Anyone up for doing a Galrath run or a Ring of Fire run? We could set a date to do that...

[Pyske]

Anyone up for doing a Galrath run or a Ring of Fire run? We could set a date to do that...
I'm up for it. Also up for helping people with gathering Elites, and for team PvP, if anyone wanted to.

[Tetsuki]

In terms of special events, what did you have in mind? I'm still a bit of a newbie, having never gotten a character to 20 (though I'm getting close).

Well, just getting a bunch of us together in one place would be special for starters :)

Doing a couple of specific quests/missions as suggested above could be one sort of event.

Alternatively, if anyone has a free slot (and more slots will be available with Factions), getting a party together and playing through some of the earlier game content could be fun. Heck, we could explore Cantha together.

Another use for a free slot would be to start brand new chars, assemble in pre-searing, and go on a scavenger hunt. First person to bring a list of items back to Ascalon City wins! Or, first person to get a full set of collector armour.

At the very special end of the scale would be putting a theme team together, like some of the CoH/CoV supergroups that have been organised here. I'll confess to an unholy desire to put together a 'sentai' team made entirely from Rangers - with different secondaries, and their own personal colour to dye outfits with ... can you see where this is going? :D

But I'm sure you can do better. Just think of the coolest/craziest/most exciting thing you would want to do in the game, and we'll try and find a way to do it!

Anyway, bedtime for me, I'll check up on this thread tomorrow.

[Pyske]

Also, any hard-earned advice from anyone who's been down this path before is always welcome.

I've shared a bit of my thoughts with Tetsuki already, but I'll write 'em up here, too, so others can respond to them.

My experience is that guilds are very much a "critical mass" sort of thing.

The first tier of success for a guild is doing something on a regular, weekly basis. This lets people plan their schedule around the guild, so they know they won't just be logged on killing time.

Having a guild hall helps contribute to #1, since you can have scheduled GvG games.

The second tier is when you can count on there to be people online to play with pretty much whenever you log on. This is where the WoW guilds seem to be, at least if you're high level. Even lower level folks seem to have a good chance of grouping with someone if they want too.

Having a website contributes to #2, since it expands the ability to do guild related stuff "anytime you want".

Special events sound to me like a good first step toward reaching tier 1. I'd particularly enjoy doing something for the Factions release.

[Benny the Gnome Bard]

I'd be in favour of something involving lowbies, such as the new alts to do the early game content together, Hell, none of my chars ever seem to get above lvl 6 or 7 before I think "ooh what if" and roll again.

[salamanca]

If anybody needs early help, I'm commited to keeping my personal guild for real world friends but happy to help out with any member of the Order or Keetom when I'm on and not obligated to someone else already.

This includes quick guide runs to nearby locations, helping out with a quest, and answering questions about where to find someone or what to do with a specific quest item.

Mind you I'm not really running any characters that are configured to do major running. but I'll help out if I can.

Shen Gon Wu
Hamilton Dare
Ariana Kervil

Just whisper and tell me your from the Keetoms or RPG.net

[Chikahiro]

I'm all for *anything* that's casual friendly.

Perhaps having a weekend once a month for "Hey! Let's have a picnic or something!"

Or general adventuring, whatever (darn, no cooking skill in GW...oh well).

Just a thought.

Just so you guys know, I decided to cancel my preorder on Factions. I don't see myself playing enough right now to justify the cost :(

Must feed my bills, savings, and contemplate retirement when I'm 100. Annoying real-life...

[Mr. Sanity]

I'd be in favour of something involving lowbies, such as the new alts to do the early game content together, Hell, none of my chars ever seem to get above lvl 6 or 7 before I think "ooh what if" and roll again.

I'm up for this too. :) I'm still new enough that I haven't unlocked all the skills, and ought to do the profession quests for about 1/2 the professions still.

[GreenTongue]

My guild has an "Explorer's Challenge" game that you might try.
One person finds a spot and screen prints it. Everyone else tries to find it.
The first to post a screen shot of them at the spot gets to pick the next place.

( Course it helps to have a web site to post the pics at. )

[Tetsuki]

The first tier of success for a guild is doing something on a regular, weekly basis. This lets people plan their schedule around the guild, so they know they won't just be logged on killing time.



I'm now in a position to do something about this. I'm planning to give over one evening a week to "playing on purpose", instead of scattering a few hours across the whole week like I usually do.

Anyone else willing to do this? Ideally, I'm looking a Wednesday evening, say 8pm - 11pm GMT, but am open to suggestions. We can decide what to do on a week-by-week basis, but I'd like to agree when to do it now.

So, who's in?

[Benny the Gnome Bard]

I'm now in a position to do something about this. I'm planning to give over one evening a week to "playing on purpose", instead of scattering a few hours across the whole week like I usually do.

Anyone else willing to do this? Ideally, I'm looking a Wednesday evening, say 8pm - 11pm GMT, but am open to suggestions. We can decide what to do on a week-by-week basis, but I'd like to agree when to do it now.

So, who's in?

Wednesday would be a perfect night for me. My college closes at lunchtime on wednesdays so I can get my homework done early before I start playing :P

[Mr. Sanity]

I'm now in a position to do something about this. I'm planning to give over one evening a week to "playing on purpose", instead of scattering a few hours across the whole week like I usually do.

Anyone else willing to do this? Ideally, I'm looking a Wednesday evening, say 8pm - 11pm GMT, but am open to suggestions. We can decide what to do on a week-by-week basis, but I'd like to agree when to do it now.

So, who's in?

That sounds about like my lunch break time (PDT time zone). I can try to be available then. Besides, I've been sneaking on a lot @ lunch from work hehe.

[Tetsuki]

Right, this is to confirm that I will be in post-searing Ascalon, International District-1 at 8pm tomorrow. Come along or whisper me if you want to go questing - all are welcome!

(I'll use my UK account, so make sure Anya Stormcrow is on your friends list :) )

Cheers,

Doug

[Mr. Sanity]

Right, this is to confirm that I will be in post-searing Ascalon, International District-1 at 8pm tomorrow. Come along or whisper me if you want to go questing - all are welcome!

(I'll use my UK account, so make sure Anya Stormcrow is on your friends list :) )

Cheers,

Doug

The meetup on Wed. was a lot of fun. Hopefully next time, more people can make it. Killing our way through the Crystal Desert was fun. :) Maybe next week, I'll have my first Ascended character (knock on wood)!

If there are people online during Pacific late nights, look me up in Guild chat, and maybe we can work trough quests/missions!

[Tetsuki]

Just so people know, I'm planning on being there this Wednesday as well, 8pm to late.

This would be a good time for us to clear bothersome quests, as I suspect a lot of the playerbase will be exploring Factions next week and less available to help out with the existing game content.

If anyone's got a particularly irksome quest they want help with, post it here.

Cheers,

Doug

[lost thought]

I enjoyed playing last Wednesday as well. I got a lot of great help (thanks!) and had a lot of fun. Completing the Gates of Kryta mission with just one other person was a surprisingly enjoyable challenge.

My schedule's going to be kind of weird this week but I am going to try to be on Wednesday night, starting at around 6:00 PM EST. I've been somewhat hooked lately, so I'll be playing whatever other evenings I can fit in as well.

I played a lot over the weekend with henchmen (very rarely saw a fellow member of the Order), and I got stuck trying to defeat Lord Timot for the "Reversing the Skales" quest. Man I want to kill that dead bastard. Anybody want to help? :)

- lost
(Guild Wars: Soran Keleth)

[Pyske]

I'd be willing to help, but my monk has one of those annoying quests that Tetsuki mentioned, that might make your life just a wee bit difficult (Defend North Kryta). You don't mind if having me along causes a bunch of roving packs of lvl 28 monsters whose death spawns pairs of lvl 24 monsters, do you? ;)

Gates of Krtya was fun. I did finally decide to give in and go with a Barrage build for my ranger, too. (Barrage, Tiger's Fury, Savage Shot, Disrupting Lunge, Predator's Pounce, Charm, Rebirth)

I'll be there Wednesday.

[Snoopy]

I'm considering getting Guild Wars, one of the main reasons being this OGO guild.

I'll see what turns up!

[Pyske]

While I don't want to discourage you from getting the game, bear in mind that the guild is just getting started. You may often find yourself to be the only guild member online.

[Snoopy]

I'm looking for an online game. Of course, it's not like I've not got far too many things eating my time already!

[Snoopy]

So, if the 6 `core classes' from the original are also available to those who get Factions, as well as the Assassin and Ritualist, what's the benefit to buying the first release? Is it purely to get access to the first continent?

[woolTECH]

Although the classes themselves will be available, not all their skills will be included in Factions.

[Tetsuki]

I'd be willing to help, but my monk has one of those annoying quests that Tetsuki mentioned, that might make your life just a wee bit difficult (Defend North Kryta). You don't mind if having me along causes a bunch of roving packs of lvl 28 monsters whose death spawns pairs of lvl 24 monsters, do you? ;)

Of course, you could always abandon the quest and pick it up again later :)

And see you tomorrow!

Snoopy: We're small but growing, right now it's a struggle to get a group together, but I'm hoping having a regular Wednesday meet will help out. Also, there are lots of friendly RPG.net members in other guilds who you can hook up with in game.

(having said that, WoW appears to have the largest RPG.net presence, but it also has subscription fees.. IMHO Guild Wars is best if you don't have as much time to put into online gaming.)

[Gwydion]

I played a lot over the weekend with henchmen (very rarely saw a fellow member of the Order), and I got stuck trying to defeat Lord Timot for the "Reversing the Skales" quest. Man I want to kill that dead bastard. Anybody want to help? :)


I recommend a minion master...
Kevin

[lost thought]

Okay, so I didn't make it to "Guild Night" when I thought I would.. 6:50 instead of 6:00 PM EST.. (had to work late) so where is everybody?

I'll be hanging around in the game for awhile, if anyone wants to go kill stuff! :)

- lost

[Pyske]

Anya, Roweena, and I were around at about 8:00 and again at 9:00, but GMT, which means about 4pm and 5pm CST. We played some Random Arenas to try to get everyone unlocked for a Team Arena game, before people had to go.

Sorry we missed you, lost thought. I went to bed so I could sign on for the start of the Factions preview.

[lost thought]

Hey that's cool, maybe I will run into some fellow guild members another time. I just knew I was screwed being in the EST time zone. heh

For further bad news, my GW: Factions Collector's Edition pre-order is delayed 'til who knows when.

At any rate, I'll hopefully be playing tonight and tomorrow night, so I hope to see some of you online then!

- lost

[woolTECH]

You know, it's just dawned on me. I'm in the UK and sounds like you are all American - no wonder I can't find you if we're on different servers.

*stupid time*

Guess I'll leave the guild again. Cheers for letting me in anyways. :)

\/\/.

[Benny the Gnome Bard]

You know, it's just dawned on me. I'm in the UK and sounds like you are all American - no wonder I can't find you if we're on different servers.

*stupid time*

Guess I'll leave the guild again. Cheers for letting me in anyways. :)

\/\/.

Actually I'd say it's quite an even split, plus International Districts mean we can play together.

[Pyske]

Actually I'd say it's quite an even split, plus International Districts mean we can play together.
Yep, plus Tetsuki (the guild master) is European.

[Whollyrandom]

Well, I've now started playing the game, so I wouldn't mind joining. PM sent.

[Benny the Gnome Bard]

Picked up my Factions preorder disc today, unfortunately there's been a delay, and I can't get my full copy til next week because I preordered the collectors edition.

[GreenTongue]

Might I suggest that your Guild consider joining an Alliance with The Ethereal Guild [TeG]? ( contact Alyxandra Dimystiq )

My Guild and others that we have allied with since the original release will be a part of this Alliance. :cool:

[bubbles]

There's always the Chosen of Grenth as well, would be cool for us to ally with you. I'll check with the others next time I'm online as I don't think we're an rpg.net-only guild anymore...

[Mr. Sanity]

How much Factions uptake has there been in the group? I'm curious if there's anyone that wants to farm Lilly Dragons (sic?) on the newbie island. I've found them to drop gold items at a surprising rate (I got 2 so-so items in 1 run thru the area).

[lost thought]

I'm waiting on my pre-order of the Collector's Edition to come in. It looks possible that it will be in by Friday, the 5th. (woo!) Then I'll be in there doing Factions quests. But I'll still be switching to my Tyrian character too, who has plenty of stuff left to do.

-lost

[GreenTongue]

I'm there and have killed a large number of Lilly Dragons, got a gold from Yettis but none from Dragons. :(

Back when "Captured Son" had to be done with a team of 4, used Lillys to work off DP. ;)

Jarel Spaul (Heroes Etc..) As/Ra

[Mr. Sanity]

I'm there and have killed a large number of Lilly Dragons, got a gold from Yettis but none from Dragons. :(

Back when "Captured Son" had to be done with a team of 4, used Lillys to work off DP. ;)

Jarel Spaul (Heroes Etc..) As/Ra

Ack, "Captured Son"... That and "Last Stand" are the 2 that I just can't hench my way through. I'm going to need groups for those. The tightly-packed swarms of spellcasters on both those makes them ridiculously difficult.

[Snoopy]

I have also found this!

[Pyske]

I'll be glad to help when I'm on. In the meantime, henching advice: grab the henchies from the mission area (lvl 16 instead of lvl 13). Also, take only ranged henchies; they are easier to control aggro with. Finally, equip a bow or wand for pulling, then switch to your primary weapons when they come out to you.

[Tetsuki]

OK, I'm on again for tomorrow night, and this time I won't forget about Daylight Savings Time!

(Seriously, I hung around an hour early last week, because I forgot that GMT != DST. I'm sharing this with you so that you know that your guild leader is a muppet.)

The bad news (apart from my lack of clock-reading skills) is that my copy of Factions has yet to arrive, so I'm stuck in the old campaign.

However, I may use this as an excuse to go shopping for a Guild Hall and/or Cape! Anyone else want to come along?

EDIT: I've just checked, and I can view the new Guild Halls. If you get the chance, check out the Isle of Meditation and let me know if you would like to live there, because it's beautiful! (Or suggest other locations, but you're going to have to be convincing :) )

Also, we will need a cape before getting a hall, so I'm going to make us one tomorrow night. I'm currently looking at a green cloak, frayed at the edges (because the keetooms love climbing up it) and with a big gold paw print.) If it looks horrible, I can afford to replace it, but wouldn't mind hearing your thoughts on it before I blow 2 plat.

[Pyske]

The problem with colored capes is getting a color scheme everyone can live with. I generally like basic colors (black / white / gray ) for the base color, but that's just me. I'm also not too fond of the paw-print design. Here's a few other ideas for comparison -- ignore the bit of fire wand poking through on a couple of them:

<img src=http://forum.rpg.net/attachment.php?attachmentid=13823&d=1146603800 />

[Snoopy]

Does anyone feel like a semi-regular meet-up on Sunday evenings, GMT (well, British Summer Time) say 8:00pm GMT+1. (I think it is)

[Mr. Sanity]

I had an idea for color that might work:
How about using RPG.net colors? ;)

Like so:
http://stevemeinel.com/Keetom.jpg

Otherwise, I'm partial to #4 and #6 from Pyske's post.

[Benny the Gnome Bard]

I had an idea for color that might work:
How about using RPG.net colors? ;)

Like so:>snipped<
Otherwise, I'm partial to #4 and #6 from Pyske's post.

I like the one on the right hand side.

[Tetsuki]

Hmm, I can't say I'm too keen on the RPG.net colours myself as they are a bit too bright for my taste (and may clash with some character's costumes).

Out of the others, Pyske's #6 is my favourite, as there's not too much going on.

I'm tempted to experiment with something really minimalist - black cape and a silvery-black kitty head (same emblem as #6, just woth the colours toned right down).

If it sucks, I will happily appoint another person (probably Pyske) to be our official guild emblemer, to design the replacement.

That OK with everyone?

- Doug

[Mr. Sanity]

Hmm, I can't say I'm too keen on the RPG.net colours myself as they are a bit too bright for my taste (and may clash with some character's costumes).

Out of the others, Pyske's #6 is my favourite, as there's not too much going on.

I'm tempted to experiment with something really minimalist - black cape and a silvery-black kitty head (same emblem as #6, just woth the colours toned right down).

If it sucks, I will happily appoint another person (probably Pyske) to be our official guild emblemer, to design the replacement.

That OK with everyone?

- Doug

Sounds like a plan to me! I'm a computer programmer, so my taste in colors is almost as bad as an engineer's (don't lynch me, you engineering types!).

[Tetsuki]

Quick update: I've splashed out on a tasteful and understated cape. Maybe it's a bit too understated, so let me know what you think once you've seen it in-game.

Also, we've just had a quick scoot around the Guild halls. The new Meditation Island is my clear favourite, with Imperial Isle a close second. After that, it's a tie up between Isle of Weeping Stone and Warrior's isle, but these are a distant third behind the other to.

If you can, log on tonight have have a look around. I should be back on in an hour or so, before I go to bed.

[Pyske]

I like the new cape.

Sorry I missed you tonight, Tets. My mum showed up unexpectedly on my doorstep and wanted to go to dinner.

[woolTECH]

Love the new cloak - too many go for gaudy ones.

What do people think of factions now a few of you have been playing it a bit - worth getting?

Grey/Twisted/Clear Skies.

[Mr. Sanity]

Love the new cloak - too many go for gaudy ones.

What do people think of factions now a few of you have been playing it a bit - worth getting?

Grey/Twisted/Clear Skies.

Well, as a relative newbie to GW as a whole, my experience with Factions has been more positive than with Prophecies (which I've been enjoying as well). It is generally easier to level up and build the character you want from early on. Also, as someone pointed out elsewhere, Canthan characters are noticably richer than their Tyrian couterparts. Better gold rewards for quests, and nicer drops from MOBs earlier in the game.

The biggest down side is that the Assassin and Ritualist class are so new, that there is a veritable flood of them everywhere (I'm part of the problem!). Right now Cantha is really the western stereotype of Asia: there's ninjas and wise mystics everywhere! ;)

[Snoopy]

I haven't played Prophecies, but I'm really enjoying Factions.

And it was great to get online with other real people! Most of my mission-ing has been with henchmen, but I'm getting in to the whole `I'm a monk, you want me' mindset!

And that said, I love the cape. Very cool. Is there any chance people who have Factions could get together sometime to help me complete a complete bastid of a mission? It's the Captured Son (the one I was up until 2:30am trying last night!). It involves slaughtering a whole village of about 50 bandits.

[Pyske]

Is there any chance people who have Factions could get together sometime to help me complete a complete bastid of a mission?

I'd be glad to help. Pick a time; I can probably do it. :)

[Snoopy]

That'd be great. I dunno quite when I'll definitely be able to be on at the moment. The thing is, you really REALLY need a full party of 6 competent people to manage it --- although I was almost there last night with 5 henchmen (it was those durned close combat henchies aggroing more monsters that got us in the end!), and to be honest, every party I've been in to do it has had at least one idiot... I was hoping if i could grab enough help from the Guild that such a problem wouldn't occur!

[GreenTongue]

The best way to do it is to attack from the Lilly Dragon side. (It is a good idea to kill off the closest Lillys so they don't join in from the rear.)
First strike at the gap in the hills and fall back as soon as they agro. When they have separated from the main group, take'em down.
Next, do the same thing from the beach approach.

It's tough but not impossible if you are good at Drawing. Something the henchmen at not known for. ;)

[Snoopy]

This is much the approach I've been taking. Of course, I have to do the luring with a group of henchmen, but I'm not bad at it. Of course, then the two close combat henchmen charge in and get killed, aggroing a lot of monsters. *sigh*.

So I'm not going to take them this time...

[Snoopy]

WooHa!!!!

Just managed the Captured Son. With only me and 4 henchmen...

I realised the biggest problem was drawing aggro, so I only took the 4 ranged henchmen. So up I go, ping one of them, run away, and no-one tries to run in and engage in close combat. Only took 20 minutes!

[lost thought]

Nicely done, Snoopy! Hopefully I can remember all this when I start playing Factions. :)

-lost
(GW: Soran Keleth)

[salamanca]

I'm of the current opinion that Factions is accelerating the level advancement faster than I enjoy. By thetime I took a new character and did just the secondary profession missi0ns and a few things on the preview night, I'm looking at level 11.

Looking ahead, by the time I see the third mission most if not all of the enemy creatures are level 20. Obviously part of this is to placate the PVP rush through crowd but it really doesn't sit well with me nor does the apparant issue I'm noticing in the map tat will force me to do missions to get to certain areas. I sort of liked the possibility that I could skip the missions and just skulk about if I chose to in Prophecies.

[Pyske]

Most of the content is intentionally at level 20, but I agree that the advancement has been sped up in Factions.

[Mr. Sanity]

I'm of the current opinion that Factions is accelerating the level advancement faster than I enjoy. By thetime I took a new character and did just the secondary profession missi0ns and a few things on the preview night, I'm looking at level 11.

Looking ahead, by the time I see the third mission most if not all of the enemy creatures are level 20. Obviously part of this is to placate the PVP rush through crowd but it really doesn't sit well with me nor does the apparant issue I'm noticing in the map tat will force me to do missions to get to certain areas. I sort of liked the possibility that I could skip the missions and just skulk about if I chose to in Prophecies.

Yeah, the leveling speed is a lot faster. After less than 20 hours, I had my Assassin to 20, and I'm relativelly new to the game. In a way I like it though, because there are times that the pacing of development is too slow in chapter 1.

As for the city being blocked off a lot, that's been a sore spot for me too. My previous trekking from Ascalon to Kryta without doing missions spoiled me a bit on that front.

[GreenTongue]

Most of the content is intentionally at level 20, but I agree that the advancement has been sped up in Factions.
There is a large population of players bringing their level 20's over. The content is mostly for them I believe.
The starter area is just a way to "come up to speed" with the new professions.
IMHO.

[Pyske]

The blocked areas annoy me too. They did it to stop runners, of course, and it does seem to help on that so far.

[Mr. Sanity]

The blocked areas annoy me too. They did it to stop runners, of course, and it does seem to help on that so far.

The part that hacks me off is that I tend to be an explorer and I get to do it in much smaller chunks now. Now, if I could finally build a workable mental map for all the slums outside the palace so twisty I'll be in better shape.

[Mostlyjoe]

I like Factions. The bigger quests are really nice. And I'm working on so many build sin my head. I'm an Assassin/Warrior - Axe specialist, using Crits as my primary damage dealer.

[Mostlyjoe]

How do I track you all down in Guild Wars???

[Tetsuki]

How do I track you all down in Guild Wars???

We'll, if you're not in a guild already, just post one of your character names (or PM me with it) and you'll get an invite.

I will also try and get a decent screenshot of the guild list and post it sometime soon. That way you'll know who we are even if you don't join.

While I'm here - I haven't seen many comments about preferred guild halls. That means I'm going to go with the Meditation Isle.

This means we have another choice to make, before we can get involved with Alliances: Luxon or Kurzick? I'll start a new thread for that.

Cheers,

Doug

[Elizabeth Brooks]

Ha ha, thread necro!

I joined the Order of the Keetoom just a few days ago, and so far it's been great. The other players are helpful and cool. :)

Now if I could somehow reconcile my altitis with the limited number of character slots...

[Darting Flea]

I'm of the current opinion that Factions is accelerating the level advancement faster than I enjoy. By thetime I took a new character and did just the secondary profession missi0ns and a few things on the preview night, I'm looking at level 11.

Looking ahead, by the time I see the third mission most if not all of the enemy creatures are level 20. Obviously part of this is to placate the PVP rush through crowd but it really doesn't sit well with me nor does the apparant issue I'm noticing in the map tat will force me to do missions to get to certain areas. I sort of liked the possibility that I could skip the missions and just skulk about if I chose to in Prophecies.

Its deliberately much faster. And there are a few advantages to making it so:
1) smaller need for runners. If you want to get that max armour you no longer have to spend a small fortune on a runner to get it. you just have to play the game.
2) the game is easier to balance if everyone at the same level. Devs can spend more time making cool monsters & quests than trying to balance a zone to the average player.
3) Allows for balanced PvP asap.
4) The devs are trying to avoid guildwars being a leveling game. They dont want you to play because they dangle teh next level over the horizon they want you to play because your having fun now.
5) Puts the community on an equal footing so there is a greater freedom to mingle and team up.
6) less likely some one will quit before they get to the "fun" part, as many people seemed to have gotten sick before getting out of post searing ascalon.

[bubbles]

Its deliberately much faster. And there are a few advantages to making it so:
*snip good points*
6) less likely some one will quit before they get to the "fun" part, as many people seemed to have gotten sick before getting out of post searing ascalon.
I know I was sick of the game while in Ascalon, but I think that had less to do with the 'grind' and more to do with the fact that post-searing Ascalon is a fucking horrible ugly boring place. So glad when I got to Ram's Bend, if only for the change of scenery :)

[Gwydion]

How do I track you all down in Guild Wars???

I've mentioned befor but, my primary is Corbin Serpentine, who I've been playing through the Factions section. I'm usually on evenings Pacific time, but I'm not a member of OotK (though I might join if it gets to the point where there are people active during the times I'm on -- I haven't really managed to find people yet and I'm already in a not very active Guild with some offline friends)
Kevin

[Elizabeth Brooks]

I know I was sick of the game while in Ascalon, but I think that had less to do with the 'grind' and more to do with the fact that post-searing Ascalon is a fucking horrible ugly boring place. So glad when I got to Ram's Bend, if only for the change of scenery :)

Strangely, the apocalyptic wasteland was what really appealed to me in beta - not that I want to run around in a blasted desert all the time, but that a blasted desert was an available environment.

I haven't taken any characters past the Searing yet - I have two in the Searing, and hope to get at least one out fairly soon.

[rgalex]

Hey all. I just picked up the original GW this past week. Right now I'm still playing around getting to know everything (coming from FFXI this is kinda different for me). I am very much in favor of joining up to a "casual" guild if you are still taking people. I'm afraid I won't be much help atm as I really am clueless as to what I'm doing, but I'm having fun. :D

I'm currently playing a Ranger/Necromancer, level 4 named Kirianna Seminov. So if I'm on and anyone wants to invite me along for something send me a message.

I guess I should ask, are guilds cross style (meaning is the guild both PvP and Pv...E is it?). I'm also willing to make a second character if I'm not in the right one, I'm in the non PvP one.

One quick question before I go, I read on a board that I should get a Resurection Glyph or something before moving on in the story to where everything gets destroyed. Anyone know what this is and how I would get it?

[bubbles]

Resurrection Signet is really easy to get... there's a quest somewhere in Old Ascalon that asks you to group with another person, then talk to the quest giver. That's it. Then you get your res signet.

Actually, I think the quest giver is stood next to the resurrection portal outside the city gates.

[rgalex]

Ah, ok. I do have that quest in my log. I just haven't done it yet. Thank you. :)

[Elizabeth Brooks]

Hey all. I just picked up the original GW this past week. Right now I'm still playing around getting to know everything (coming from FFXI this is kinda different for me). I am very much in favor of joining up to a "casual" guild if you are still taking people. I'm afraid I won't be much help atm as I really am clueless as to what I'm doing, but I'm having fun. :D

I'm currently playing a Ranger/Necromancer, level 4 named Kirianna Seminov. So if I'm on and anyone wants to invite me along for something send me a message.

I guess I should ask, are guilds cross style (meaning is the guild both PvP and Pv...E is it?). I'm also willing to make a second character if I'm not in the right one, I'm in the non PvP one.

One quick question before I go, I read on a board that I should get a Resurection Glyph or something before moving on in the story to where everything gets destroyed. Anyone know what this is and how I would get it?

Guilds can do both PVE and PVP.

If you join a guild, your entire account joins that guild. Also, if you put a character on your friend list, you put that entire account on your friend list. :)

I don't know how much PVP the Order does, as I haven't asked (and have been focusing on PVE).

[Tetsuki]

Hi!

At the moment, we're not doing much PVP, this is partly because most (but not all) members seem prefer PVE, but mainly because we don't have enough people online at any given time to form a full team (the most I've seen is 4!)

Assuming we get more members, I expect that we'll get some practice in by organising friendlies within our soon-to-be-arranged alliance, or by fielding some 4-player teams in the arenas or alliance battles. Just don't pick me for your team, becasue I suck mightily against human opponents :)

I also have no problems with officering up anyone who wants to organise a PVP team to play regularly.

And a reminder (because people don't always know this, or forget): to invite someone, I need to know the name of one of their characters - best way to get an invite quickly is to PM me here, or whisp one of my characters (Anya Stormcrow or Dom Jeronimo) in game.

[rgalex]

That all sounds good. I'm not much of a PvP person myself. I've spent the past week, on and off, just getting use to the interface (again, coming from FFXI on a PS2 and not much PC gaming experience other than Warcraft and Starcraft) this is a bit different for me) and seeing what's out there. I went and did 3 or 4 of the secondary job bits before deciding on Necromancer. It was a toss up between that and Mesmer but the ablility to have a pet and undead minions was the swing issue.

So anyway, I'm running around doing simple quests and just bought my first Salvage and Identify kits. I'll be out of town for about a week starting tomorrow, but I'll most likely pop in some time tonight after midnight EST.

[Agentman]

I have a assassin lvl 13/14(I have not played this char in a bit) and I have not even done the first mission(Cho's Estate). Like somebody said earlier in the thread, it's to get you caught with your other characters. Factions is also anti-run since everything is locked until you do the appropiate quest or mission.

I am in a guild right now, but it is not very active.

So if anybody wants to do some quests or missions together or just to say hi, my character name is Devo Bones W/N LVL 20. The farthest I got in game is the Crystal Desert and I am trying to get my char ascended. I have been trying to get to Dunes Of Despair but keep getting killed by 2 sand wurms and other crap around the teleporter. Anybody know a shortcut. :D

I have other characters at various stages of the game too.

[GreenTongue]

I am in an older Guild and not this one, however, whisper me and I can get you some help getting through tough spots. :)

The following are some of my character names. If you add me to your friends list, you can see which one I'm currently playing.
Melodious Green
Gruph Greentongue
Beth Flogsnort
Dens Leonis
Jarel Spaul

[Gwydion]

Same here.
I mostly play Corbin Serpentine these days. Most my characters are level 20, but I'm happy to go back an help with early missions/quests if people want.
Kevin

[Beri]

Thread Necromancy!
I play Hundred Arrow Song. I'm in a guild, but looking to leave, because we haven't done anything in months. Invite me to the Order, mkay?

[Mr. Sanity]

Thread Necromancy!
I play Hundred Arrow Song. I'm in a guild, but looking to leave, because we haven't done anything in months. Invite me to the Order, mkay?

Invite Sent. :) Enjoy!

[Gamer_Packrat]

Who would I talk to in-game to get an invite?

[Mr. Sanity]

Who would I talk to in-game to get an invite?

Just post one of you in-game names and I or one of the other officers can give you an invite. :)

[PhoenixAndy]

Just post one of you in-game names and I or one of the other officers can give you an invite. :)

Could I get an invite too? Amica Lobris is the in-game name. Currently pootling around pre-searing Ascalon doing quests.

[Elizabeth Brooks]

I sent Amica an invite just a few minutes ago (from Tang Zhangsun).

if you want an invite, just post a character name here or in a PM.

[PhoenixAndy]

So are there any plans to have a guild event or anything soon?

Love the guild hall, btw.

[Elizabeth Brooks]

We should plan something, yes. :) Any suggestions? All the stuff that comes immediately to mind is stuff that's just not feasible in Guild Wars (you can't go into the wilderness with more than 8 characters at a time).

It should involve a lot of chatting in the alliance channel while we're doing it. :)

[PhoenixAndy]

We should plan something, yes. :) Any suggestions? All the stuff that comes immediately to mind is stuff that's just not feasible in Guild Wars (you can't go into the wilderness with more than 8 characters at a time).

Not a clue, but then I still haven't got outside post-searing Ascalon, so I'm less clued-up on what's available. Plus I only have Prophecies, for now, at least.

It should involve a lot of chatting in the alliance channel while we're doing it. :)

Or even while planning it.

Do we have a guild website or anything?

[Elizabeth Brooks]

No website at the moment, although it wouldn't be difficult to make one if that's your thing.

I made a guildportal site for the Keetooms awhile back, but I may have misplaced the url, and guildportal hates to let me log in. :(

Ah, here: http://www.guildportal.com/Guild.aspx?GuildID=98725&TabID=845923

Obviously, nothing's been done. This was due to guild inactivity and a general sense that people were using rpg.net for Keetoom business.

[PhoenixAndy]

No website at the moment, although it wouldn't be difficult to make one if that's your thing.
No way! Tried in the past, and failed miserably. :cool:

I made a guildportal site for the Keetooms awhile back, but I may have misplaced the url, and guildportal hates to let me log in. :(

Ah, here: http://www.guildportal.com/Guild.aspx?GuildID=98725&TabID=845923

Obviously, nothing's been done. This was due to guild inactivity and a general sense that people were using rpg.net for Keetoom business.

Ah. Maybe we should revive things.

[sangarnisator]

Could I get an invite sent to Elyria Snowshadow?

[Elizabeth Brooks]

Done.

[JELEINEN]

Any chance of anyone wanting to Abadon's Mouth sometime? I'm sick of just standing around looking for a group (tried with henchmen and it was impossible).

[Beri]

Any chance of anyone wanting to Abadon's Mouth sometime? I'm sick of just standing around looking for a group (tried with henchmen and it was impossible).

I need to get my girlfriend through Abaddon's Mouth sometime. I just did it myself a week or so ago. Maybe we can find a time that works for us, I'd love to help you through it. I play a Monk, too, which makes getting groups easy.

[Elizabeth Brooks]

If we set a time post-Tuesday, I can come. I have a Necro/whatever. I can do SS, which works very nicely there.

[sangarnisator]

I have a mesmer that could join you, depending on the time.

[PhoenixAndy]

I'd join in too, but I'm not convinced I can get there yet. (still in post-searing ascalon, not even started the mission-plotline yet)

Plus I'm still only level 9.

[Mr. Sanity]

Depending on what time this is going to happen, and when I get settled in after my flights, I might be able to bring my Ranger for the fun.

[Elizabeth Brooks]

I'd join in too, but I'm not convinced I can get there yet. (still in post-searing ascalon, not even started the mission-plotline yet)

Plus I'm still only level 9.

It's one of the last two missions, so no, getting there would be a bit rough. ;)

[JELEINEN]

Timing is the problem. I work evenings, so 10:30 PM central time is about the earliest I could get on. Otherwise, Saturday evening is the only time I'm free this week.

[Elizabeth Brooks]

That's 8:30 my time. It's doable for me.

[sangarnisator]

That's 5:30 AM over here. A bit too early (or late) for me. :)

[Chikahiro]

Should be getting a new computer soon - in which case I'll be back to GW soonish :)

[JELEINEN]

Well, tomorrow of Thursday night would be fine (Thursday is preferable). If not, then probably try for next week.

[Elizabeth Brooks]

My Tuesday return of Intarweb became Thursday night.

So, if you're still scheduling, I'm still up for it, except on Monday which will probably be Deadmines with P&W in WoW.

Unless they already have 5 people. :)

[Elizabeth Brooks]

The alliance is making noises about asking the Order to merge with another guild again.

Thread is here. (http://s15.invisionfree.com/Chosen_of_Grenth/index.php?showtopic=491)

I'm not looking to start drama, though. I am wondering about reactions to the idea of being asked to meld with another guild. My impression in the past was "no, don't want to do that."

[Mr. Sanity]

I'm of the opinion that [LoD] should merge right back into [WitB] from whence they spawned. If that is not an option, and we're being asked to merge with one of their guilds (which is patently unfair if they're letting LoD off the hook for it), I'd prefer to go somewhere where we won't be second-class citizens. But, if everyone else in the guild is fine with their decisions, I'll shut up and continue my PvE play, and help out fellow RPGnetters when I run across a call for help.

Thanks for bringing this to the attention of the guild. I know that I for one rarely visit the CoG boards, as they have too much drama for my tastes.

[Elizabeth Brooks]

My inclination, if they ask us to merge with another guild (and keep playing the stupid "Are there any active OGO members?" game), is to leave, and find another alliance.

[woolTECH]

I'm not on much these days, but I joined Order of the Keetom because it was an RPG.NET guild. If we merge, we stop being that.

Depends what people want out of the game - I'm not that sure myself. I was in my last guild just because I wanted a natty little cape. :)

[sangarnisator]

My inclination, if they ask us to merge with another guild (and keep playing the stupid "Are there any active OGO members?" game), is to leave, and find another alliance.

That would be my advice as well, though I really don't have a say, having left the guild.

[bubbles]

I would be sad if you guys left the alliance, but I understand why you wouldn't want to merge with another guild either. Seems it would be better for Fs and SC to merge, since they have history and all. I'm going to talk to CoG people now, see what the situation is at our end.

[Elizabeth Brooks]

Well, I don't want to leave. I like having a big alliance even if I haven't recently taken advantage of it. Nightfall is coming, and all that.

As far as perception of OGO goes, they may think no one is on because they don't see anyone talking very often. But that comes down to how satisfied anyone is with the alliance (I rather like it, having had a lot of good teaming experiences in the past).

[Elizabeth Brooks]

That would be my advice as well, though I really don't have a say, having left the guild.

I'm sorry you didn't find what you were looking for. :(

[Snoopy]

Well, I'm becoming active again, after a long spell away. Just to recap, I've got a Mo/Rt, a N/Mo and a Rt/N (you can tell which three professions I like!) and am starting an A/R with an eye to going Critical Barrage. Just because it seems fun and something very different to my other three (mostly support) characters.

[Elizabeth Brooks]

Woo, Critical Barragers sound like fun. :)

I've never been able to get an assassin off the island, though.

[Snoopy]

Me neither. I ran all the way to about level 10 last night, though, just got to where I can start the second mission or various other quests, and the only problem I've had is one of the "get your insignia" dojo fights... I have no real way of countering his Life Sheath -- yeah, so I have distracting shot, but that takes 1/2s to use, and Life Sheath only takes 1s to use, so if my character's not ready and able to use it (and I notice) in the first 1/2s, I'm stuffed (which usually happens) and the Assassin "touch and all your enchantments fall off" skill disables all my non-attack skills for 7s (minimum) and takes longer to recharge than Life Sheath... Grr... The only things I can see left to try are 1) just out-damage him (which I've failed at so far with a bow, but I might try daggers) 2) Get a pet. (which I really don't want to do yet).

*sigh*

And Barrage is quite a way away yet. Still, I've got Dual Shot, which is being nice. And Hunter's Shot, which is quite awesome (bonus damage always, and inflicts bleeding if they're moving or knocked down when you shoot them -- and with a longbow, you can always make sure that that first shot is when they're moving!)

[PhoenixAndy]

My inclination, if they ask us to merge with another guild (and keep playing the stupid "Are there any active OGO members?" game), is to leave, and find another alliance.

That'd be my attitude too..

If they ask us to merge, say no
If they insist, leave.

[GreenTongue]

Me neither. I ran all the way to about level 10 last night, though, just got to where I can start the second mission or various other quests, and the only problem I've had is one of the "get your insignia" dojo fights... I have no real way of countering his Life Sheath -- yeah, so I have distracting shot, but that takes 1/2s to use, and Life Sheath only takes 1s to use, so if my character's not ready and able to use it (and I notice) in the first 1/2s, I'm stuffed (which usually happens) and the Assassin "touch and all your enchantments fall off" skill disables all my non-attack skills for 7s (minimum) and takes longer to recharge than Life Sheath... Grr... The only things I can see left to try are 1) just out-damage him (which I've failed at so far with a bow, but I might try daggers) 2) Get a pet. (which I really don't want to do yet).


Have you tried Poison? and/or Throw Dirt?
At low levels Posion is very effective.
If the Assassin misses, they can't get their attack chains off so Throw Dirt hurts them a lot.
=

[Snoopy]

The guy I'm up against is a Monk using Life Sheath, which negates the next block of damage in a specified time period. I've not tried Poison, but that might get through what he's doing where Hunter's Shot (which I have tried) doesn't, as it only inflicts Bleeding if he's moving or knocked down, which he never is!

[drek]

Me neither. I ran all the way to about level 10 last night, though, just got to where I can start the second mission or various other quests, and the only problem I've had is one of the "get your insignia" dojo fights... I have no real way of countering his Life Sheath -- yeah, so I have distracting shot, but that takes 1/2s to use, and Life Sheath only takes 1s to use, so if my character's not ready and able to use it (and I notice) in the first 1/2s,

The point of that exercise is to teach you how to interrupt, if I remember correctly. (but you probably can out damage him anyway with degen or whatever.)

To interrupt, don't use the mouse to active your skill. Just target the opponent you want to interrupt (with Tab or the mouse or whatever) and move up close enough to him so that your arrow won't be in flight longer than a 1/2 second. In the monastary training, you can probably move right next to your target. Keep your finger on the number key that you've placed your interrupt(s) on, and your eye on the the target's skill activation thingy. The millisecond you see Life Sheath (or whatever) pop up, cast your interrupt.

Interrupts are special in that even if you are already in the middle of a normal attack, the interrupt will fire off more or less instantly. You can use this to "spike"....for example, run a damaging Preperation (like Ignite Arrow), fire Dual Shot then an interrupt. If you que up the interrupt while your in the middle of the dual shot, you'll hit the target with three arrows in a row.

With just a little practice, it's not hard to get it down, and it's a super useful thing to know how to do on certain PvE missions (and absolutely critical for a ranger in PvP). BTW, a one second cast time is an etenity in PvP. I know guys who can shutdown monks using spells with 1/4 cast times (via educated guesses as to when the caster is going to fire off his spell), and I myself can often interupt 3/4 second spells.

[sangarnisator]

I'm sorry you didn't find what you were looking for. :(

I played a couple of hours each day for a week. During that time, I met another guildmember once. It's probably because I'm from the EU and most of you are from the US. Still, if you need help with anything just send me a whisper (or a pm, even).

[Snoopy]

Yeah, it was an interrupt exercise. Hadn't thought about arrow flight time! D'oh! The thing is, the skill takes 1/2s to use as well, so shutting down something with 1/4s cast is... unlikely!

Still, off to give it another go...

[Snoopy]

And this time, with the interrupt arrow, the first time he tries Life Sheath I interrupt it like never before and he quickly surrenders. Grr!

[Elizabeth Brooks]

Okay, I have a question:

Officers - we have 17 officers (well, some are duplicate accounts. I know of two explicitly, one of mine, and one of Tetsuko's), so make that 15 officers vs. 12 members.

The reason for this was when the guild was much more active right after Factions, Alliance chat was officer only territory, and there was a tendency to promote people so they could talk in the channel. This is no longer necessary, but the list is kind of lopsided.

In fairness, we could:

1) Promote everyone to officer
2) Pick officers and demote the excess
3) Leave as-is

How organized do people want to be?

Also,

Are people interested in using the guildportal page, or is this thread/forum sufficient?

[Chikahiro]

I'd say we could utilize the RPGnet wiki, personally. Get all the basics about Keetom there for people. That aside these threads seem fine to me.

[JELEINEN]

I don't have Factions, so I don't know anything about this Alliance stuff, but I really don't like the idea of other people telling us our business.

[drek]

And this time, with the interrupt arrow, the first time he tries Life Sheath I interrupt it like never before and he quickly surrenders. Grr!

gg! Playing an interrupter in PvP is a lot of fun; shutdown is a statisfying tactics in Guild Wars. If you do it right, your target ends up compelely impotent. You might want to try out it out in the arenas using the Cripshot ranger pre-gen. A battle between a good interrupt ranger (or domination mesmer) and a good monk creates some interesting tactics, where the monk tries to fake out the ranger by canceling his own spells and the ranger tried to catch the monk at the worst (or best from the ranger's perspective) possible times.

Interrupting 1/4 cast skill (and even 3/4 cast) requires intitution. Instead of waiting for the caster to start casting, you have to guess (via watching the caster to learn his habits) and make sure your arrow hits him at that precise millisecond. I know a couple guys who are scary good at it.

[Elizabeth Brooks]

I don't have Factions, so I don't know anything about this Alliance stuff, but I really don't like the idea of other people telling us our business.

Update: No one's going to ask us to merge. The alliance is full and the guild that wanted to join is looking at other options.

It's all cool.

[Mr. Sanity]

Yay, drama averted. :)

As for the whole officer situation, I'm (as always) flexible about it. I think I've given out one whole invite and maybe 3 temporary invites. So all in all, I never user the role actively. But I think if we are going to do something with the officers, it should be a prelude to more overall organization.

Having more organization *might* make it easier to do things like the Abaddon run that was discussed last week. :)

[PhoenixAndy]

Okay, I have a question:

Officers - we have 17 officers (well, some are duplicate accounts. I know of two explicitly, one of mine, and one of Tetsuko's), so make that 15 officers vs. 12 members.

The reason for this was when the guild was much more active right after Factions, Alliance chat was officer only territory, and there was a tendency to promote people so they could talk in the channel. This is no longer necessary, but the list is kind of lopsided.

In fairness, we could:

1) Promote everyone to officer
2) Pick officers and demote the excess
3) Leave as-is

How organized do people want to be?

Well, I don't see it matters much right now, as long as there's no stigma attached to not being an officer. I do think that it's worth thinking about being properly organised though, particularly if we get an influx of new members with Nightfall.

Also,

Are people interested in using the guildportal page, or is this thread/forum sufficient?

I'd agree with the earlier suggestion of using the wiki, but for information only. We may as well keep discussion here.

[Elizabeth Brooks]

On the officer thing: No one should be treated differently (better or worse) just because they are or are not an officer. This is a pretty casual guild.

I'm not all that great on formatting Wiki-style. Volunteers? :)

[PhoenixAndy]

On the officer thing: No one should be treated differently (better or worse) just because they are or are not an officer. This is a pretty casual guild.
That's what I expected. As long as it stays that way, no need to change anything right now.

I'm not all that great on formatting Wiki-style. Volunteers? :)

Well, if people put up the content, I can probably manage to find time to tidy it up a little bit. I'm not suggesting it'd be anything super-shiny, mind...

[Snoopy]

gg! Playing an interrupter in PvP is a lot of fun; shutdown is a statisfying tactics in Guild Wars. If you do it right, your target ends up compelely impotent. You might want to try out it out in the arenas using the Cripshot ranger pre-gen. A battle between a good interrupt ranger (or domination mesmer) and a good monk creates some interesting tactics, where the monk tries to fake out the ranger by canceling his own spells and the ranger tried to catch the monk at the worst (or best from the ranger's perspective) possible times.

Interrupting 1/4 cast skill (and even 3/4 cast) requires intitution. Instead of waiting for the caster to start casting, you have to guess (via watching the caster to learn his habits) and make sure your arrow hits him at that precise millisecond. I know a couple guys who are scary good at it.
Oh, I'm not playing an interrupt Ranger, I'm aiming for Critical Barrage, but until then I'm just going with Critical Eye and Dual Shot (and various other bits and pieces), which is being quite a bit of fun for now. You never know, I might actually get off the trainer island sometime soon!

Oh, and I'm glad no-one is asking us to merge anymore, as I'd be very against that -- the point of the guild is to be an RPG.net guild, and that means a lot to me, actually -- so I'd rather leave the alliance and be on our own than merge with someone else. Not that this is an issue right now, but it may become an issue again.

[RPG_Wombat]

Me neither. I ran all the way to about level 10 last night, though, just got to where I can start the second mission or various other quests, and the only problem I've had is one of the "get your insignia" dojo fights...

Gah, I hate that one! I can never seem to get the timing on the interrupt quite right, and even when I do, aside from the warrior, I can't quite seem to do enough damage to get him to surrender. Aside from the warrior, it took around 7 or 8 tries to get past it.

Started up a Mes/Rit, got him to level 7, I'm liking the way he plays so far. Also tried the second cut-scene mission with my warrior, looks like that one is going to be a real pain. Too many afflicted, too close together. But most of the party got wiped out just by passing through a patch of glowy ick.

[Snoopy]

Gah, I hate that one! I can never seem to get the timing on the interrupt quite right, and even when I do, aside from the warrior, I can't quite seem to do enough damage to get him to surrender. Aside from the warrior, it took around 7 or 8 tries to get past it.

Started up a Mes/Rit, got him to level 7, I'm liking the way he plays so far. Also tried the second cut-scene mission with my warrior, looks like that one is going to be a real pain. Too many afflicted, too close together. But most of the party got wiped out just by passing through a patch of glowy ick.
I just did that mission, but only got standard reward on it (well, I was using henchmen, so that's not totally out of the question) and would like to do it again. Similarly, given I've finished it the required once, I'd really like to do it `backwards' for the second attribute quest.

[Elizabeth Brooks]

I believe you're not required to do all the tests. You can just get the skills, complete one, and go back to the proper instructor and get sent back to Master Togo.

I could be completely wrong, though.

[Snoopy]

No, you're right, and that's what I did! :D Still, completed that one now -- nice not to leave any loose ends behind.

[RPG_Wombat]

I believe you're not required to do all the tests. You can just get the skills, complete one, and go back to the proper instructor and get sent back to Master Togo.

I could be completely wrong, though.

I was under the impression that, while the trainer offered them all, you didn't actually have to complete all of them. Something like four out of six. I know that my Warrior had to do the "follow the ranger" one, but my Mesmer didn't.

Oh, and speaking of the Mesmer, is there any vendor I can get wands from, or are they loot-only? Got a neat +Energy item, but I can't hold it and a staff at the same time. The only wand I have is the stater one for my 2ndary class (Rit).

[Chikahiro]

In Prophecies, where do I find the Xunlai agent who'll upgrade my storage account to include materials?

[Gamer_Packrat]

I get to ~ level 11 and then get stuck. Pretty much I get to the first mission and stop. My highest level character is 15 and stuck there. She is at the second mission with the afflicted in it.

[nonsense]

In Prophecies, where do I find the Xunlai agent who'll upgrade my storage account to include materials?

Hrm.. I was gonna say Kaineng, but you want Prophecies. If I had to guess, I'd say Ascalon. I haven't seen those guys in Lion's Arch or Droknan's Forge (I think).


I get to ~ level 11 and then get stuck. Pretty much I get to the first mission and stop. My highest level character is 15 and stuck there. She is at the second mission with the afflicted in it.

The difficulty level in Factions pretty much skyrockets around Zen Daijun. Upgrade your armour, and run it with people if you can (though it may be tough to find a group right now). I've done it with henchies several times, but that's not really the easiest thing in the world.

What's your class?

[Gamer_Packrat]

The difficulty level in Factions pretty much skyrockets around Zen Daijun. Upgrade your armour, and run it with people if you can (though it may be tough to find a group right now). I've done it with henchies several times, but that's not really the easiest thing in the world.

What's your class?

Necromancer/elementalist. I have one quest around there. I can't remember the name of it. You have to kill some nagas amd get a doohickey. I am getting nowhere with that one.

[Benny the Gnome Bard]

I am getting very very annoyed with this game. I've tried to do Factions Mission 3, Vizunah Square, 3 times now with PuGs, only to keep wiping due to overwhelming afflicted doom. Any advice or offers of assistance?

I'm a Lvl 20 Elementalist/Necromancer, and I've got my 1.5k armour.

[drek]

I am getting very very annoyed with this game. I've tried to do Factions Mission 3, Vizunah Square, 3 times now with PuGs, only to keep wiping due to overwhelming afflicted doom. Any advice or offers of assistance?


Best advice is to forget Factions and play Nightfall instead. It's a much much better PvE campaign (a lot more fun, and more fair), and you'll acquire Heros you can use to beat the Factions missions.

Barring that, you are stuck on the hardest mission to pass through in the entirety of Factions. All the missions in the city suck, but that's certainly worst of the lot. Try taking a guild group of friendly players who've already passed that mission. In particular, Minion Masters rule that mission. Try to find one, and a couple of decent monks.

If there's no one on from Keeton, you can message Raz the Reaver (if I'm not on as that character, I'll be busy in a PvP match) and I'll use my Heroes to drag you through that mission.

On your own character, you might consider taking wards and nukes.

Guildwiki has some detailed advice for that mission: http://gw.gamewikis.org/wiki/Vizunah_Square, as well as nearly all missions and quests. If you continue on with Factions, take heart, for the game gets a lot better once you are past that godforsaken city. Try to get out of there asap.

[nonsense]

Necromancer/elementalist. I have one quest around there. I can't remember the name of it. You have to kill some nagas amd get a doohickey. I am getting nowhere with that one.

Ah, then you shouldn't actually have much trouble. I breezed through everything up to Kaineng with my necro set up for Minion Mastery. Grab Bone Fiends if you have 'em, Minions if you don't, and raise yourself an army. You will utterly obliterate everything in your path.

Key Skills:

- Animate X
- Taste of Death
- Verata's Whichever Skill Heals Minions
- Death Nova if you're going the minion route (doesn't really work with fiends, by dint of their not closing for melee). Swap it out with corpse explosion if you're going fiends.
- Deathly Chill isn't strictly required, but it's nice to have some way to do damage before you start to steamroll.

Put a lot of points in Death, and you'll want some in Soul Reaping (dying minions trigger the energy gain; MMing is prohibitively expensive without the Reaping refund, and easy, easy energy management otherwise).


Edit: What Drek said, too. Factions is sort of like the Guild Wars endgame; it really was designed for people who already knew their way around after Prophecies (and had access to some Prophecies elites, too). Nightfall is more forgiving.

Also, heroes make everything in Prophecies and Factions a kabillion times easier.

[Kasumi]

Best advice is to forget Factions and play Nightfall instead. It's a much much better PvE campaign (a lot more fun, and more fair), and you'll acquire Heros you can use to beat the Factions missions.



I'm making serious Factions progress with the advent of heroes + the allmighty flag. Took a little while to level up the heroes, but it's been well worth it.

[Benny the Gnome Bard]

>advice<
I don't have nightfall. I wont be able to get it for weeks. So It's Vizunah or go poke around in Tyria for a while. And I usually have plenty of wards and nukes.In most ofl the wipes I've been the last to drop due to my luck and the fact that I have a large HP pool (for a Ele) and use Aura of restoration to keep myself up.

[drek]

I don't have nightfall. I wont be able to get it for weeks. So It's Vizunah or go poke around in Tyria for a while. And I usually have plenty of wards and nukes.In most ofl the wipes I've been the last to drop due to my luck and the fact that I have a large HP pool (for a Ele) and use Aura of restoration to keep myself up.

Aint no thang. Just look up someone who has Nightfall, and they can zip you through that mission with their heroes. I'd be happy to do it, because I remember hating that mission as well.

[Benny the Gnome Bard]

Aint no thang. Just look up someone who has Nightfall, and they can zip you through that mission with their heroes. I'd be happy to do it, because I remember hating that mission as well.

I've got distracted by a Tyrian alt again for a while now anyway.

[Elizabeth Brooks]

If anyone would like to give Nightfall a try, I have a Nightfall buddy key available.

If anyone has Nightfall and would like to give Factions/Prophecies a try, I have a "Guild Wars Epic Trial Key."

Both are good for 2 weeks/10 hours of play. PM me if you want one or both. :)

[Xenon_Wulf]

In Prophecies, where do I find the Xunlai agent who'll upgrade my storage account to include materials?

Lion's Arch, by the other Xunlai agents. One of them's been replaced by a non-storage Xunlai person...

[Chikahiro]

Cool. Egad - it looks like my poor mesmer is stuck for now, then - I don't see her getting to Lion's Arch anytime soon. My Factions character got there sooner!

I've decided the following - Prophecies can drag a little, but Factions is killing me! Ouch! It might be my main there is squishy, though. Actually, come to think of it - all my characters are squishy... Well, that and I'm not exactly good at this game, either :)

I can't tell you how many missions I beat through sheer stubborness, 60% DP and all!

[nonsense]

I can't tell you how many missions I beat through sheer stubborness, 60% DP and all!

Ugh.

I spent a good part of last night at -60%DP, plugging away one kill at a time at a group of eighty kabillion dwarves in Dreadnought's Drift, all to cap a necromancer elite.

I got it, but ugh.

[Xenon_Wulf]

Cool. Egad - it looks like my poor mesmer is stuck for now, then - I don't see her getting to Lion's Arch anytime soon. My Factions character got there sooner!

I've decided the following - Prophecies can drag a little, but Factions is killing me! Ouch! It might be my main there is squishy, though. Actually, come to think of it - all my characters are squishy... Well, that and I'm not exactly good at this game, either :)

I can't tell you how many missions I beat through sheer stubborness, 60% DP and all!

Send me a whisper if I'm ever online - it'll be a pleasure to give you a hand. The character's name is Alverice Carlan.

[Mr. Sanity]

Cool. Egad - it looks like my poor mesmer is stuck for now, then - I don't see her getting to Lion's Arch anytime soon. My Factions character got there sooner!

Hey, if you're ever on when I am, I'll help you through the mission progression to LA, or I can slot up my 'sin for running and run you there (I ran her from LA to Ascalon to work towards the Protector of Tyria title :p).

[Xenon_Wulf]

Due to lack of activity from my previous guild, I left and am now currently guild-less - is the Order of the Keetom still up and around?

If so, Alverice Carlan would like to join the Order...

[Snoopy]

Indeed we are. When I'm next on, I'll get you an invite!

[nine-9]

Any possibility of getting invited too?

Long term reader, absolute crap at posting on rpg.net though ;)

Just got a hold of nightfall and LOVING it...apart from the lack of a guild that is. Should probably mention I'm a Britpacker, do hope that doesnt cause offence to my colonial chums.

[Elizabeth Brooks]

The guild is mixed nationalities. ;)

So what's your IGN so we can invite you?

[Elizabeth Brooks]

Ugh.

I spent a good part of last night at -60%DP, plugging away one kill at a time at a group of eighty kabillion dwarves in Dreadnought's Drift, all to cap a necromancer elite.

I got it, but ugh.

I know this is way late, but:

Feast of Corruption, right?

The best part of that run was getting FoC, then using my uber SS/FoC build to spam unholy death and destruction on those gorram dwarves. It's strange how much easier the place became when I had two elites.

[nine-9]

The guild is mixed nationalities. ;)

So what's your IGN so we can invite you?

Drink Deep

Because my first 2 dozen choices were taken!

[Tsed]

I know this is way late, but:

Feast of Corruption, right?

The best part of that run was getting FoC, then using my uber SS/FoC build to spam unholy death and destruction on those gorram dwarves. It's strange how much easier the place became when I had two elites.

Honestly, I think my FoC cap run was some of the most fun I've had in GW. My cap run was before Sorrow's Furnace, so it was a rather long trek to face the Maw of the Mountain Heart. But a blast it was. :)


http://danielv.chaosnet.org/images/maw_of_the_mountain_heart_sm.jpg (http://danielv.chaosnet.org/images/maw_of_the_mountain_heart.jpg)

--Tsed, who's already in a guild, but can be reached as Tazendra Daayva or Vlad of Taltos

[Elizabeth Brooks]

Drink Deep

Because my first 2 dozen choices were taken!

I sent the invite, and I apologize for taking a week to send it. This thread dropped off the front page and I forgot to check back. :(

[nine-9]

I sent the invite, and I apologize for taking a week to send it. This thread dropped off the front page and I forgot to check back. :(

Huzzah! Thanks a lot.

Wouldnt have been able to accept the invite before now anyway, been too busy brutalising myself surfing in the chilly waters of the Irish channel.

Realising just HOW deep GW is is somewhat terrifying!

[Elizabeth Brooks]

BTW, Order of Undeath? Hardest. Cap. Ever.

[Ratoslov]

Could you send me an invite, too? My necro's named Nan Kai Min.

[Elizabeth Brooks]

Done.

[Elizabeth Brooks]

So I was looking at the Nightfall guild halls, and I realized that a change of scenery might not be so bad. :)

If you want to check out the new islands, go to Lion's Arch, Kamadan, Kaineng City, or the Great Temple of Balthazar (the last can be reached directly from the guild hall, or unlocked by doing the PVP tutorial with a 20th level character, like a PVP character) and look for a Canthan Ambassador.

He'll take you on a tour of any island you like. The Nightfall islands are the Uncharted Isle, the Corrupted Isle, the Isle of Wurms, and the Isle of Solitude.

If we do want to change guild halls, it'll cost a sigil. You get those by either winning Heroes' Ascent or paying a sigil trader. Right now, they're going for 22 platinum.

We don't have to change. I'm just curious if anyone wants to.

[bv728]

Would it be possible for me to get an invite on Mortua Fallensbane?

I got a couple of characters I play around with, but that's my main one.

[Elizabeth Brooks]

Would it be possible for me to get an invite on Mortua Fallensbane?

I got a couple of characters I play around with, but that's my main one.

The game responds:

"Mortua Fallensbane" could not be invited because a character by that name could not be found.

[bv728]

The game responds:

"Mortua Fallensbane" could not be invited because a character by that name could not be found.

How'd that S get in there? :o

Mortua Fallenbane, not Fallensbane.

[Elizabeth Brooks]

How'd that S get in there? :o

Mortua Fallenbane, not Fallensbane.


Don't ask me, I just selected the text and copy/pasted. :)

[Varkias]

The mini-guild I was in fell apart about a month ago; could I get an invite?

My primary character is Yuki Tsubasa.

Thanks! :D

[Elizabeth Brooks]

Invite sent.

[Elizabeth Brooks]

Okay, current alliance forum: http://z6.invisionfree.com/Lievs_Death_Squad/index.php?act=idx

And:

WITB Alliance Easter Event:


Event 1:


The WITB Easter Cape:


This event is open to anyone who is interesting in trying out their cape designing expertise. The role is to make the best cape themed to Easter using Easter themed colors (pink, light blue, purple, yellow, etc), and the best designs and emblems available to complement your cape.

There will be a cash prize to the winner and the winner will be determined by the WITB Alliance members. Each person’s cape will be placed in a poll with 7 others and everyone will vote on which one they like of those 8. People are not allowed to vote on there own cape however they must vote on one of the other 7 options. 1st place votes will continue up the chain until there in a “final 8” and in that final poll we will have the winner and winner will receive bragging rights and a cash prize (cash being GWs gold of course). Depending on the final amount of prize money gold we have in our Donations pot we may be able to give prize money to even lower ranks as well like 2nd and 3rd place as well.


To make your cape simply go to any Guild Embalmer NPC and go about the process as though you were gonna make your own Guild cape. When you’re done and satisfied simply take a photo of it (ctr+alt+Print Screen).


Good luck with your artistic cape capabilities.



WITB Alliance Easter Egg Hunt:


The Item Hunt: In this game a list of random Guild Wars items will be made and listed and given out on Sunday April 8. This list will span all across the 3 continents to even holiday events. The rarer the item the more points its worth. The players have till the end of Friday to collect as many of these items as possible and then show them to the Easter Event administrators via photos of the inventory or direct showing in game. We will then tally up the points and places of everyone on Saturday, then anounce the winners on Sunday and hand out the prizes at the finale event.

An example of what wed ask for example is: Soul Stone (collectors drop from shiroken) 1 point, Sugary Blue Drink (New Years event) 3 points, Yuletide Tonic (wintersday event) 5 points, Blue rarity Ancient scythe 5 points for non max damage/ 10 points for max damage, Colossal Scimitar/ Elemental Blade 1 point (come on even if they lose this event there still the winner so 1 point!). The true final list will be made by the Easter Event committee (Me and Ruben of LDS).



The Prizes: The prizes will be complete GWs gold prizes. The exact sums and how many people will receive prizes depends on the amount of donations we receive to the “Prize Pot”. Anyone is allowed to donate an amount of gold they would like. No sum being too small. The more money we get in the prize pot the more prizes we can give out and in larger sums as well.

An example is if our prize pot reaches 180K total we can give 55K gold to the 1st place winners of both the cape and the hunt, as well as 35K gold to the runners up, but if we say only get 80K gold we would probably only be able to give 40K gold to both winners. We will close off donations somewhere around wed, thurs, or fri to give us time to decide the winning amounts and for how many places we can give decent prizes to as well.

Furthermore, those who hand out donations will receive a small gift from the administrators of this event via free alcohol at the finale (varying from weak stuff like shamrock ale to super strong stuff like spiked eggnog).


Final bit of fun: It was suggested as a finale the WITB alliance raid LA int district as our final place to party to congratulations to our winners and perhaps public offerings of there prizes and just “drink the night away” or some such stuff. Basically a WITB alliance shin dig of fun if you will. The final location decision and times for the prize hand outs and such will be finalized closer to the closing of the event.

[Whollyrandom]

I'd like to announce that I finally have a level 20 PvE character - my Dervish, Yvette la Danseuse - and have tried out PvP. Heck, I've even captured elite skills (Avatar of Grenth, Avatar of Melandru). At least being ill for the last few days has served some purpose.

I love the PvP, but pick-up teams are an abomination. When can we do some as a guild?

[Kuma]

How active is the OotK at night? My current guild only has a couple of people on at night, and getting PvE help is almost impossible (except for Friday nights, of course - but Dzagonur Citadel isn't going to defend itself, dammit!)

[Jon Chung]

I'm always game for PvP, although I don't have Team Arena unlocked yet.

My elementalist isn't quite ready yet, though my assassin is.

[Whollyrandom]

I'm always game for PvP, although I don't have Team Arena unlocked yet.

My elementalist isn't quite ready yet, though my assassin is.

You make a good point; how much faction does Team Arena require?

[Chikahiro]

Gah - going through Prophecies, and holy crap its getting hard for me :(

I'm not used to smart enemies - my Mesmer is getting targetted a LOT now, and I'm not sure how to deal with all the loving attention I'm getting...

[Madcat]

Try setting the flag ahead of yourself to send your hencies ahead and positioning yourself so that the monsters aren't in your aggro bubble? (Note: I haven't tried this, mainly choosing to play well armored types, but I think it should work.)

Also, Call your targets (Ctrl+space) to focus henchman attention where you want it.

[Elizabeth Brooks]

Regarding Team Arena:

You don't unlock it with Balthazar faction. you have to win five random arena victories in a row. If you win 10 in a row, you're automatically moved to Team Arena.

Gah - going through Prophecies, and holy crap its getting hard for me :(

I'm not used to smart enemies - my Mesmer is getting targetted a LOT now, and I'm not sure how to deal with all the loving attention I'm getting...

Just by default, AI enemies like to preferentially target characters with lower health. They also prefer to attack players (in my experience, and I've henched nearly every mission in Prophecies, Factions, and Nightfall) over henchmen.

There's a couple good ways to avoid this. My preference is to plant a flag far back from the enemies, run up, pull, and then lead them back to the henchmen. Run past the henchmen, and the monsters will get tangled up with them. Give a second, and then do your thing. and you should be safe.

Also, use a rune of minor vigor, plus a weapon and/or offhand that grants some health.

Identify trouble targets and focus on them first. As a mesmer, this is your strength - you can lock down an elementalist mob enough that he can't nuke your party much, for example. This can help a lot.

Also, bring damage. Henchmen aren't so great at dealing it.

[Whollyrandom]

5 Random Arena victories in a row? Best I've managed so far is three, and I've already had to play with some very stupid team-mates.

Still, I've only managed about 2 hours of PvP play in total to date so I really can't claim anything that might look at a considerable distance in poor lighting conditions like even a small amount of experience. There have clearly been quite a few players who were trying out a character class for absolutely the first time, however and they do tend to lose the round all but instantly for your team.

[Elizabeth Brooks]

To be honest, they should just say "win five RA victories, unlock TA."

After all, five nonconsecutive TA victories will get you to HA.

Or, if you have an old enough account, you just get them all unlocked. :(

[Mr. Sanity]

I'd like to announce that I finally have a level 20 PvE character - my Dervish, Yvette la Danseuse - and have tried out PvP. Heck, I've even captured elite skills (Avatar of Grenth, Avatar of Melandru). At least being ill for the last few days has served some purpose.

I love the PvP, but pick-up teams are an abomination. When can we do some as a guild?

If I'm on at a time that you are, I'm usually game for some AB/TA or what not. Just be warned that I'm still a bit raw at TA. I'd like to do some HA, but my forays there have mostly been disasters (I think I've earned 4-6 hero points).

[Old Geezer]

Gah - going through Prophecies, and holy crap its getting hard for me :(

I'm not used to smart enemies - my Mesmer is getting targetted a LOT now, and I'm not sure how to deal with all the loving attention I'm getting...


Same thing with Nightfall.

I just did the Prince's "Rescue the Patrol" in the Resplendent Markun area. At one point they killed all my healers! Boy was I pissed!

We were right next to a resurretion shrine, though, so I just charged the nearest mob and died.

[Old Geezer]

but Dzagonur Citadel isn't going to defend itself, dammit!)

I haven't got past Dasha Vestibule, myself. And comments like "Yeah, I got it on the fourth try" and "It's fun to play with different builds until you find one that works for a mission" don't help. :(

I think the game is made for people with a higher level of dedication that I have. Oh, well.

[GreenTongue]

How active is the OotK at night? My current guild only has a couple of people on at night, and getting PvE help is almost impossible (except for Friday nights, of course - but Dzagonur Citadel isn't going to defend itself, dammit!)
Don't forget to use your Friends List if there are no Guildies on.
-= Gruph Greentongue =-
=

[Xenon_Wulf]

I'm always willing to help out other RPGnet members if I'm online.
Add Alverice Carlan to your friends list, if I'm on I'll be more than happy to give you a hand.

[Elizabeth Brooks]

I'm also willing to help.

Plus, update on the Alliance Easter stuff:

These are the 3 links we have in regards to the easter event were starting
up. The first contest to become officiol will be the Easter cape design
event which will open up late friday night with all the rulings and how
things will work out.

Please promote this event to all your guild members as the more who pay the
better fun the event will be!

Also were looking to cut off donations perhaps around thursday so we can
finally tally up the grand total of money and items we got and how to
distribute them fairly amongst all the differet contests we will be doing.


Hope to see you all participating and having fun! :)

http://witb.rubywater.net/forum/viewtopic.php?id=410

http://z6.invisionfree.com/Lievs_Death_Squad/index.php?showtopic=91
http://z6.invisionfree.com/Lievs_Death_Squad/index.php?showtopic=105

[Madcat]

I haven't got past Dasha Vestibule, myself. And comments like "Yeah, I got it on the fourth try" and "It's fun to play with different builds until you find one that works for a mission" don't help. :(

I think the game is made for people with a higher level of dedication that I have. Oh, well.
DV isn't that bad, add me to your friends list (IGN: Kara Elzarad) and if our playing times happen to match, send me a tell.

[Elizabeth Brooks]

WitB has added a TeamSpeak server with channels for each guild. OGO has its own channel now. :)

Server information is in the guild message.

[Chikahiro]

Well, I've been working on Claremont Davvis (slight tribute to Chris Claremont and Alan Davis) the past two evenings, and have not only had fun, but made quite some progress. I went from level 9 to level 11, which is a pretty fast rate for me. While wandering around lost (@_@ ) I stumpled across that... fresca? Its not a mosiac... that thing... (http://www.geocities.com/chikahiro94/gw043.jpg) and it was pretty impressive. Middle of nowhere, no big huge quest around it. It was just there.

That's so awesome.

Anyhow, for those who care about such things, my current Mesmer/Monk PVE build:

Fast Casting 5, Domination 9, Smiting 4

Conjure Phantasm / Energy Burn / Chaos Storm /Shatter Delusions / Backfire / Symbol of Wrath / Empathy / Resurrect

Its working pretty well, and I'm finally getting skills that let me play the way I'm used to in City of Heroes. Chaos Storm and Symbol of Wrath are great "go away" skills, and with Shatter Delusions works well with my other hexes (Phantasm, Empathy, Backfire) when I remember to keep a rough count of how long they have til expiration. I might have to go and bump up Healing Prayers, but I'm not sure what to change toaccomodate that. Its wierd - I focus on healing, and my Healer henchie has a easy time, even if I do nothing. Don't have heals? Wow... life's hard again for the poor girl.

I'm making good progress towards my goal of beating at least one of the current Guild Wars games before GW: Eye of the North comes out

[Kuma]

Chaos Storm and Symbol of Wrath are great "go away" skills, and with Shatter Delusions works well with my other hexes (Phantasm, Empathy, Backfire) when I remember to keep a rough count of how long they have til expiration.

With the 4/5 update, you now get handy-dandy little countdown meters for your enchantments and hexes. It's awesomerific.

Of course, you can't see the enemies' ...

[Chikahiro]

I was wondering when they added that. I noticed it for the ones affecting me, though... must observe when I get online next.

[Elizabeth Brooks]

New alliance homepage with forum and newsfeeds from the Guild Wars homepage: http://www.witb-alliance.com

[Chikahiro]

Lotta GW threads lately... anyhoo.

In theory I might start playing regularly on Monday nights at 6:30 p.m. Hawaii Standard Time. I'm conning two people into Prophecies, since 1) the guy already has it (requiring no spending of money) and 2) I bought it for the lady for $35. I would've preferred Nightfall, but didn't want to ask them to spend $50 each (budgets). That being said, if they get into it, I'm sure they'll pick up the others later.

Looking forward to it. Hopefully we'll be able to meet up and mess with the other Keets who are online at the same time :D

[Xenon_Wulf]

I'm currently stuck with another load of work from a contract for about a week or so, and then I should be on every night (eastern time) until I get buried under the workload from another contract....

If I'm on, and you need help with something in Proph or Factions, feel free to ask me (Alverice Carlan) for help. I'd be happy to help.

[nonsense]

I just started me a new Dervish out of curiosity, and I'm sorta kicking myself for not doing so earlier. They're a lot more fun than I had anticipated, and the insane self-healing power I've been able to bring to bear leads me to believe they're quite solo farming friendly, which is nice - I need some income, and AOE scatter does bad things to an SS-based 55 build (my previous moneymaker).

So if you see Bleak Morning (D/W) around, it's me.

My current projects:

1) Lay off the necro-sauce for now. Yes, necros are great fun, but variety is the spice of life.

2) Get my mezzie some elites. I've already got every rune I could possibly want, because total lack of popularity means no mesmer rune costs more than 100g, but I need cash for a new mask (I have a runed Domination mask, but I want an Illusion one as well), and some inscriptions to top off my armour. And skills. And... *sigh*. See point 3. I'm gonna have to make a jaunt over to Tyria, though, and snag IW and Energy Surge... which will mean a fair bit of work, as getting to the Fire Island area isn't quick.

3) Need. Money.

4) Pimp my Dervish. Seems like most of the key Dervish skills are available pretty much immediately, so I've already got a fairly solid build going, but I'll need gear and suchlike.

[Snoopy]

There's a really solid Dervish build available pretty much immediately.

Let's see if I can remember it...


Elite is Avatar of Melandru (the immune to conditions one)
There's Faithful Intervention, Heart of Holy Flame, one that counts the hits you do and gives you energy for each one, one that gives you health for every hit you make, the twin attack that loses you an Enchantment and the attack that does extra for each enchantment on you. This gives you solid self-healing and only uses two skills (Mysticism and Scythe Mastery) for extra kudos!

[nonsense]

Iiinteresting. I'm messing with what I imagine is a fairly standard Scythe/Mysticism/Earth build, with Vital Boon, Aura of Thorns, Twin Moon Sweep et al. I need to snag Mystic Regeneration and a few other things, but I think I may just unlock them with Balthazar faction.


Also, random question: has anyone tried Necro 55-ing with Spoil Victor? I'm sure it's a bit slower than Spiteful Spirit, but AOE scatter while farming is driving me batty.

[Madcat]

Unlocking with Balthazar faction only works for your heroes and PvP chars; won't unlock them for your RP chararacters. (Good for getting skills for classes you have no intention of playing yourself though. Monks, I'm looking at you :) )

[nonsense]

Unlocking with Balthazar faction only works for your heroes and PvP chars; won't unlock them for your RP chararacters. (Good for getting skills for classes you have no intention of playing yourself though. Monks, I'm looking at you :) )

Yes, but in unlocking them for your PVP purposes, you also unlock them for vendor purchase. So I'll still need my Dervish to pay for it, but I'll be able to buy the skill right in Kamadan inst