[Necro] Top Ten Most Disappointing Videogames

[Balthazor]

10 - Alone In The Dark: A New Nightmare:(Dreamcast) After putting a good number of hours into this game, I was quite impressed with it. It had graphics better than many PS2 games, a great storyline, a tremendous amount of background material to sift through, and a really, really creepy environment. So far, it was one of the best horror games I'd yet played. Then suddenly the ground fell out beneath it and it quickly turned into one of the most idiotic and laughable mockeries of a game I've seen. It was as if the designers got bored of working on it half way through and so just slapped a couple Doom levels on the end of it and called it done. As far as videogames go, this one was like a premature ejaculation. Great excitement quickly leading to equally great disappointment.

9 - Discworld:(Playstation) One of the first Playstation games I owned. At first, this looked like a real gem. Great visuals, great puzzles, great sense of humor. Just a sheer blast to play. But before long, it turned into nothing but a frustrating "click everything on everything and hope to god something actually comes of it" affair. Anyone who's spent the kind of time with this game as I have will know of what I speak when I say that the phrase "that doesn't work" has now been permanently etched into my very soul. And not in a good way. Evil dictators could use this game as an effective method of torture.

8 - Kileak: The DNA Imperative:(Playstation) I've still got this stinking pile of poo sitting on my shelf. A brief demo of this game was shown on the first PS demo disk which shipped with the system, and from that short preview clip it looked like a real winner. So this was the very first Playstation game I picked up to go with my shiny new system. Of course, what I didn't realize at the time was that most of these cool-looking demos were actually just the prerendered FMV intro sequences. The game itself was nothing more than Battlezone with pretty textures. Not that there's anything wrong with Battlezone, but you just expect a little more from your shiny new "next generation" system.

7 - D:(Playstation) I don't know how many people might remember this game, as it was one of the early PS games. This game looked like a sure-fire hit. The greatest graphics yet seen in a game, a good spooky-looking horror theme, puzzles and mysteries to solve. I literally drove to seven different stores to find one on launch day. Much to my dismay, the puzzles were mindless enough for a chicken to solve, the great graphics were just prerendered FMV, the game lacked almost any interactivity whatsoever, and actually had to be completed within two hours. It wouldn't even be worth the cost of a rental. Luckily Resident Evil came out shortly afterward, and delivered exactly what D did not. That being a hint of entertainment.

6 - Metal Gear Solid 2:(PS2) With all the hype behind this game, and the barrage of damn near perfect reviews it recieved from the websites and magazines, I guess I was expecting something more than just walking from one side of an oil rig to the other ten trillion times to pick up miscellaneous bits of shit that you probably should have had with you in the first place. The opening level on the ship was great, but as soon as Snake disappears and leaves you playing Jon Bon Jovi, things spiral downhill quickly. I don't consider it a horrible game or anything like that, but just a huge disappointment considering the near orgasmic reaction of the videogame media.

5 - Perfect Dark:(Nintendo 64) After the brilliance of Goldeneye, Perfect Dark was a game I would have killed my grandmother to get. By midway through, I'd have killed myself if it meant not having to play it any further. I don't know why, but it absolutely bored me to tears. I played through it as quick as I could so as to be able to still get a good trade-in value for it at Funcoland.

4 - NFL Quarterback Club 98:(Nintendo 64) At the time, this was not only the sweetest looking football game ever seen, but one of the sweetest looking games, period. I was foaming at the mouth to get my hands on it. What it turned out to be was possibly the most awful football games ever made, perhaps one of the most awful games ever made, period. When you can play the worst team in the league against the best team in the league on the hardest difficulty setting and still easily break a score of over 200 to 0, it's time to find the nearest trash can.

3 - Donkey Kong 64:(Nintendo 64) The original SNES Donkey Kong Country was Rare's cornerstone, and quite a remarkable game. And in the years to come, Rare's games only seemed to get better and better. So my expectation was that Donkey Kong 64 would be Rare's ultimate masterpiece. Instead, it was a tranquilizer with gorillas. While hints of that Rare brilliance tried hard to poke through the monotony from time to time, the game was largely about as fun as watching paint fade. The only saving grace is the appearance of the full original Donkey Kong as a minigame.

2 - Mario Sunshine:(GameCube) In my opinion, Mario 64 was the greatest game ever. That's certainly going to be a tough act to follow no matter what. But following it with a bad carbon copy of the original with a water-gun gimmick tossed in just doesn't cut it. It's like following Apocalypse Now with Rambo. Or following Jaws with, well, Jaws 2. It was almost enough to make me cry. In fact, it was enough to make me tear the disk from the machine and hurl it across the room. Take it from me, those little GameCube disks are pretty tough.

1 - Shenmue 2:(Xbox) The first game is, without a doubt, one of my favorite games of all time. Not that it's all that spectacular a game, but rather because of the wonderful environment. Never before had I seen an environment so rich and detailed, and with so much "flavor", that I felt literally pulled into a whole new world. Even though much of the gameplay involved just walking around asking people about "that day", it was still a joy for me just to be able to absorb the surroundings. So imagine my excitement when I heard that the sequel was even better than the original. Heck, forced with the choice between picking up Shenmue 2 and GTA: Vice City, which both released on the same day, I went with Shenmue 2.

Indeed, the game itself is better than the first, as there's a bigger environment with a great deal more to do, but the environment has none of the appeal and "magic" that the first game delivered. The first game had this cool little Japanese setting just brimming with a certain unique aesthetic, whereas the Hong Kong environment of the sequel is pretty much just your run-of-the-mill urban setting. Overall, it comes across as nothing but an exercise in blandness. The only saving grace was the ability to walk around and take pictures of the cute chicks wandering around Hong Kong. Nothing wrong with a little digital voyeurism from time to time.

[Brightfires]

TheMystery of the Nautilus... The best illustration of why Myst-style environment-based games should *not* have time limits.

Now, I'm pretty darn good at the sort of puzzles that come up in those games. Riven and Schizm weren't much trouble. Exile and AmerZone were more-or-less cake-walks.... Myst itself was a great little toy... but that twice-cursed Nautalis game was so frustrating that I ended up putting it back in the box two days after I got it, and I haven't even considered pulling it out again.

It can stay in that box and rot.

[Gloombunny]

Metroid Prime: It certainly got its share of talking-up, but I'm close to halfway through it and it still hasn't come close to grabbing my interest. Even after getting used to the terrible controls and severe inherent flaws in the design, there's just nothing there to make it fun.


Zelda: Ocarina of Time: Even more talked-up than Metroid Prime, and so much worse. It's like the designers went out of their way to make it as much of a pain in the ass as they could. Inexcusably sloppy design sticks out all over, and there really aren't any redeeming features other than Link's presence. I badly want to put the game up on ebay and be done with it, but I have this masochistic desire to finish it just because it's a Zelda game. Although, from the looks of the things (Ocarina and my roommate playing Wind Waker), I think perhaps I should forget the love I once had for this series.

[Balthazor]

Originally posted by NatalieD
Zelda: Ocarina of Time: Even more talked-up than Metroid Prime, and so much worse. It's like the designers went out of their way to make it as much of a pain in the ass as they could. Inexcusably sloppy design sticks out all over, and there really aren't any redeeming features other than Link's presence. I badly want to put the game up on ebay and be done with it, but I have this masochistic desire to finish it just because it's a Zelda game. Although, from the looks of the things (Ocarina and my roommate playing Wind Waker), I think perhaps I should forget the love I once had for this series. [/B]

That's odd to me, as I consider Ocarina to be among the greats. I almost included Wind Waker in my list above, since so far it's been looking pretty much like nothing more than Ocarina with cell-shading and copious amounts of water, but I decided to reserve judgement until I've actually finished the game. It doesn't seem like a particularly bad game, just something less than I'd expected. So far, anyhow.

[adamsmith]

Tenchu 2 - turning a Japanese ninja fest into a James Bond style game. "Yes! By building a giant galleon we will turn Japan into a land ruled by Ninja Lords!" Thankfully being erased by Tenchu 3, which is great.
Any Terminator Game - so much potential, none realised.
Blood Omen 2 - which I still had to play so I could understand the bigger Kain story.

[Gloombunny]

Originally posted by Balthazor


That's odd to me, as I consider Ocarina to be among the greats.
I don't know what to tell you. My roommate has the same opinion, as do a damn lot of people I've talked to about it, but I just can't fathom it. I can't find anything to like about this game.

[Matthew]

Originally posted by NatalieD

I don't know what to tell you. My roommate has the same opinion, as do a damn lot of people I've talked to about it, but I just can't fathom it. I can't find anything to like about this game.

I have, astonishingly, heard people say the same thing about HALO. I suspect, however, that they're agents of the Covenant.

[Balthazor]

Originally posted by NatalieD

I don't know what to tell you. My roommate has the same opinion, as do a damn lot of people I've talked to about it, but I just can't fathom it. I can't find anything to like about this game.

Of course, you don't have to tell me anything. You don't like Ocarina, I do like The Phantom Menace. People are strange in that way.

[Matthew]

Originally posted by Balthazor
You don't like Ocarina, I do like The Phantom Menace. People are strange in that way.
I think the latter is more of an illness.

[Balthazor]

Originally posted by Matthew

I think the latter is more of an illness.

Oh yeah, well...well...Halo is just a cheap Unreal clone! Hah!

[Jody Macgregor]

<b>Starship Titanic</b>
Elevator rides which took several minutes and could not be skipped. A final puzzle only an astrophysicist would guess. A dialogue system that gives you absolute freedom to say whatever you want and and get twenty variations on "I do not understand," in return. How could Douglas Adams go so wrong?

[Durin's Bane]

I have no love for consoles, so I don't play any, but here are a few PC games that disappointed me.

Might & Magic 7 + 8: Both started out semi-okay, until it became clear they had ruined the skill system that had made me love M&M6, and destroyed any sense of freedom with inane quests and linearity.
Fallout 2: Buggy piece of crap. Even patched, it felt like wading through pure spaghetti code.
Ultima 9: Ascension: Worst 40 bucks ever spent. Period.

[Vegeta2300]

Originally posted by NatalieD
I don't know what to tell you. My roommate has the same opinion, as do a damn lot of people I've talked to about it, but I just can't fathom it. I can't find anything to like about this game.


Could it be you´re suffering from the "This isn´t the Zelda I grew up with!" syndrome? It´s that way with me and Monkey Island...

OTOH, I grew up with LttP on the SNES, and I think OoT is great, and so is MM. For XMas this year it´s gonna be a GC with WW.

Regards,

Tobias

[RedFox]

This far in and nobody's mentioned Battlecruiser 3000AD?

EDIT: Oh yeah, my vote goes for Vampire the Masquerade: Redemption.

Promised so much, produced eye-candy shaped like Gauntlet with bad controls and faux gothieness on top. Much vaunted "Storyteller mode" multiplayer was little more than a cardboard box that let other clients connect to it while the ST fought futily with a horrible disembodied head rather than providing any cohesive story.

[ExiledBlue]

Colin McCrae 3 - After the first 2 instalments i was expecting something better. But you could only use the one type of car in the championship mode. The game even on the hardest difficulty was easier than the other 2 and there was hardly any challenge. You didnt have to get better at driving because as you progressed the game give you better stuff that made you so much quicker than the others that it didnt matter.

The 2 player game was crap. In the first 2 games you and your mates could each pick a car and all go through the championship trying to beat each other and the game. In the last instalment no just the same head to head racing that you have in countless other games.

SPLINTER CELL - linear, very easy and not the kick ass game every mag claimed it was. Oh and once the game was finished that was it. No little specials to make you go back and play it again.

Im finding myself more and more disapointed in games now than I ever was. Ive seen games grow from spaccies and Ive seen some of the best games ever. However, now when I read a review that says so and so is one of the best games ever made I envariably find that its not even half decent. It seems that as long there are good graphics then the game is given a top review never mind that there is hardly a challenge to the game itself.

If I pay £40 for a game I want it to last not be able to finish it in a week of playing a couple of hours a night.

[Gloombunny]

Originally posted by Vegeta2300


Could it be you´re suffering from the "This isn´t the Zelda I grew up with!" syndrome? It´s that way with me and Monkey Island...

OTOH, I grew up with LttP on the SNES, and I think OoT is great, and so is MM. For XMas this year it´s gonna be a GC with WW.

I don't think so. Zeldas 1-3 were all pretty different and I liked all three. OoT I loathe despite its Zeldaness. If it weren't a Zelda game I'd have sold it already, I think.

[Jody Macgregor]

Ah, VIDEOgames. Well then, let me nominate

<b>Soul Reaver</b>
On the one hand you get to kill people then eat their souls, you know, just to rub it in. Other hand, the bad guys re-spawn endlessly while you're standing around fiddling with the Nth rotate-the-blocks puzzle. Bah.

[Tyrendell]

Hmmm...

I'd have to say Tekken 4 has been pretty disappointing. I LOVE a good fighting game, but this one didn't do a damn thing for me. MK Deadly Alliance is KICK ASS, though, so it makes up.

Also, Devil May Cry 2 doesn't do it for me either. However, I'm having an awesome time playin Tenchu 3, that game kicks ass!!!

[Gloombunny]

Oh, I should add Devil May Cry (the first one) to my list, too. Feh.

[Magic Pink]

Devil May Cry - lame.

Grand Theft Auto III - immature drivel.

Harvest Moon: Save the Homeland - like someone was stabbing me in the head.

Monster Rancher 3 - WAY too easy.

Black and White - frustration, thy name is this fucking game.

Halo - wake me when it gets interesting.

Might and Magic IX - kill me. Please.

Super Mario Sunshine - Hey! I get to JUMP some more! But I have so many fucking moves I can barely control myself! Give. Me. Bazooka.

Phantasy Star Online for GC - Here's on online game, but don't talk to anyone ok? Now give us 10 bucks a month. Oh, and we'll be cutting dime sized chunks out of your anus too.

Xbox in general - I love how the games challenge me by randomly crashing and freezing up. I bet I paid more for those "features" too!

-bitter bitter MP

[imbiginjapan]

Oh yeah, my vote goes for Vampire the Masquerade: Redemption.


I have to agree wholheartedly. I bought this after someone identified it as a "role-playing game". Feh.


Oh, and Berzerk for the Atari 2600. I got through all 52 levels and it just started over again, but with faster lasers.

[Burgonet]

For your consideration, I wish to nominate the game:

Master of Orion 3

The Universe was promised, a game with less playability than the first, DOS based game, was delivered. You have been warned.

[Harbinger]

Originally posted by Magic Pink
Xbox in general - I love how the games challenge me by randomly crashing and freezing up. I bet I paid more for those "features" too!

-bitter bitter MP

Never happened on my xbox.

[JdRavnos]

I've never had those problems with my X-Box either.

Hmm a lot of these I agree with (even Vampire: Redemption, which I still like, but I was greatly disappointed with what was promised vs what was delievered).

Let's see:

Dragon Warrior 7. First CRPG I played was DW1, and one of my favorites was DW4. But why does it take an hour to get to the first fight? And then they repeat levels to get more out of it. *sigh*

Quest for Glory 5. Cancelled once, many fans of the series thought we'd never get the last chapter of the series. Almost wish we hadn't. The game has rushed all over it. Many promised features were never added (like multiplayer). And the story was kinda painful, and the ending was predictable and lackluster. *Double sigh*

[Underdog]

Originally posted by Magic Pink
Xbox in general - I love how the games challenge me by randomly crashing and freezing up. I bet I paid more for those "features" too!


Did you get one of the earlier model Xboxes? They had a lot of problems with the dvd drive causing crashes and lockups. If you do have one of the early ones, and can still return it, do it now. The later models are far better.

Most disappointing games? Let's see..

Capcom vs SNK 2/CvS2EO (All Consoles) - A good 2d fighter, marred by balance issues, low resolution sprites, and Capcom's rehashing of eight to ten year old sprites. Great game nontheless, but the pixelated characters were disappointing when Guilty Gear X/GGX2 look so much better. It could use some more levels, too.

Dead or Alive 3 (Xbox) - I don't dig 3d fighters, but if Mortal Kombat: Deadly Alliance can do it for me, why can't the game that gets perfect scores all over the place? Pretty pictures, though.

Morrowind (Xbox/PC) - Good idea, bad implementation. Once the novelty of being able to go anywhere wears off, a boring game remains.

[Paradoxish]

Originally posted by RedFox
This far in and nobody's mentioned Battlecruiser 3000AD?


Shhhh!!! You fool! You'll kill us all!

It won't be long before Derek Smart shows up now...

[Magic Pink]

Originally posted by Harbinger


Never happened on my xbox.

Oh, that's right, I guess I was just lying then. :rolleyes:

-I did like that you could use the controllers as weapons MP

[Harbinger]

Originally posted by Magic Pink


Oh, that's right, I guess I was just lying then. :rolleyes:

-I did like that you could use the controllers as weapons MP

Oh I guess everything you say is gods own truth. Just because your xbox seems to have a problme does not mean that all xboxes do.

[Magic Pink]

Originally posted by Harbinger


Oh I guess everything you say is gods own truth. Just because your xbox seems to have a problme does not mean that all xboxes do.

Show me where I said they do, twit.

In the meantime, have a big slice of some My Shit pie.

-I should not be here MP

[Ravi]

Originally posted by Harbinger
Oh I guess everything you say is gods own truth. Just because your xbox seems to have a problme does not mean that all xboxes do.

Oddly, I don't recall MP making that claim. He said he was disappointed by his Xbox, because it kept locking up. Which, in a thread about personal opinions, seems pretty valid.

Of course, don't let me stop you from being personally offended that he didn't like the system. That's the birthright of geeks around the world, after all.

-r

[aiwendel]

peeks his head in...

looks around...

whew! nothing I worked on mentioned yet. It's a good day.

[Ravi]

And the most disappointing video/computer game has to be Star Control III. Everything about that one was lame.

(This is not to say it was the most <i>painful</i> game to play. That would be Beyond the Beyond on the Playstation -- the game to get someone and ensure they will never play a CRPG again.)

-r

[Garry G]

Everything after Elite.

Yup that just about covers it.

:G thought he'd mention it before somebody else did

[Teemu K. Lohenoja]

Super Mario Brothers 2 was a disappointment after the first one.

Leisure Suit Larry 5+ were also quite disappointing, the first 3 (and especially 1 and 3) were genious.

Doom 2, although it did have some near-genious levels, was bit of a disappointment as there was nothing new really, except the double-barreled shotgun and some monsters.

Ultima 8 was a freakin' platform game. What the heck? The greatest CRPG line ever turned into Super Mario Bros?

every 1st person CRPG since Dungeon Master. It was perfect but still, nothing got even close. I'd rather complete that one again than play any other such a game.

[Andy K]

CANCELLATOR!

I cancel the bad marks on Morrowind, at least for PC. If you have even a tiny bit of time, this game is the most gorgeously customizable (through fan service packs, quests and add-ons like familiars, PETS, weapons, happy fun shit) game out there. TONS of downloadable, and VERY well made, fan levels, houses, monsters, skins, islands, and even campaigns. It's like Animal Crossing on crack with swords and magic. For X-Box, though? I don't wanna go there.

My picks (besides the ones listed: A giant "Word" to SC3, MoO3, and Soul Reaver's Block Puzzle Party Madness):

Neverwinter Nights It wasn't massively disappointing, because multiplayer rocks and it's very customizable, but the first player mission was disappointing: One FedEx mission after another (Level 1: Get Four Hooyas. Level 2: Get Four More Hooyas. Level 3: Get Even more Hooyas). I'm looking forward to the expansion, though, hoping that A) They make interesting levels and B) Someone uses the desert scenery to make Dark Sun MP worlds. :)

Tropico I loved the music. However, I failed to have the orgasm in play that every reviewer seemed to be having. Sold it 2 weeks after I bought it.

I dunno, that's probably about it. I usually do heavy research into every game I get nowadays so I don't get screwed, and those previous games that I bought I just blanked out of my memory...

-Andy

[Andy K]

While I haven't played it myself, I've heard that Ultima 9, the final game in the series, basically takes the awesome and beautiful myth of the series, then force feeds it to coyotes, takes that coyote shit, runs it over in a pickup, and then ties chinese fireworks to it and watches it blow up. Whatever's left is dehydrated into dust, scooped into an urn, and then sold on eBay for 40 cents and Free Shipping.

-Andy

[ExiledBlue]

Originally posted by Ravi


Oddly, I don't recall MP making that claim. He said he was disappointed by his Xbox, because it kept locking up. Which, in a thread about personal opinions, seems pretty valid.

Of course, don't let me stop you from being personally offended that he didn't like the system. That's the birthright of geeks around the world, after all.

-r

Harbringer said that its never happened to his system then MP claimed that Harbringer was calling him a lier. Of course don't let the facts stop you from having a go at Harbringer your self for no reason.

On a similar note my x box froze up totally with Morrowind in the drive. Had to send it back but its ok now.

[NPC TheDude]

Andy Kitkowski wrote:
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While I haven't played it myself, I've heard that Ultima 9, the final game in the series, basically takes the awesome and beautiful myth of the series, then force feeds it to coyotes, takes that coyote shit, runs it over in a pickup, and then ties chinese fireworks to it and watches it blow up. Whatever's left is dehydrated into dust, scooped into an urn, and then sold on eBay for 40 cents and Free Shipping.
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That game was amazing. I still chuckle at the thought of shopkeepers floating in the air above their countertops and of a peculiar old lady who would rake her lawn in the middle of a raging rain storm.





The Dude

[Christopher James Fedak]

War of the Monsters. Super cool everything, except actual game play, which boiled down to a very limited set of things you could actually do. Can't imagine it would be all that great without 3 human players, minimum.

Pax Imperia II: After the supreme 4X joy that was the Pax imperia I for the mac, the sequel was utter and complete garbage. Blech.

Lords of Magic: I loved Lords of the Realm. and its godlike sequel. I played these games to death. Loved em l;oved em loved em. So, add in some magic, anda mythic storyline, things can only get better, right?

Wrong. Wrong Wrong Wrong Wrong Wrong. This game was an excersize in torture. Tons of potential that it never begins to live up to. Bittersweet memory.

[Magic Pink]

Originally posted by ExiledBlue


Harbringer said that its never happened to his system then MP claimed that Harbringer was calling him a lier.

Unless you actually read what I wrote, in which case I didn't.

Here's yer pie, moron.

-is it asshole season AGAIN MP

[mathey]

Metal Gear Solid 2

It was pretty, and the environmental interactivity was brilliant - but fuck, the story made me want to hit my head against a brick wall. It reached its nadir when Otacon had that incredibly embarassing freak-out over his sister's demise - caused by a goddamn parrot. I laughed and laughed, and then realized the game wanted me to take it seriously.

Things got more and more absurd, and culminated in that absolutely insanely stupid triple (or quadruple) switcheroo where it seemed every villain was working for somebody else. And the li-la-loo and the idea that the Founding Fathers were evil masterminds and the vampire and the damn parrot again... Oy vey.

[A.J.Gibson]

Since MoO3 has already ben mentioned, I'll say the other famous trilogy killer: Star Control 3. SC2 won awards, then SC3 came and changed all the best elements of the game, re-introduced elements from the original that had wisely been dropped for 2, and replaced the funny cartoons with bad puppetry. The plot had it's moments (Eternals 1's are cool), but for the most part was absurd (cows?).

On a side note, Fallout 2 had it's problems (buggy code, way too much time spent without a gun in the early game), but it was still pretty decent. The world was much bigger in the second game, almost too big, and you could drive a car!

[Qusoor]

Nocturne. What the FUCK? People loved this game, and I found it ridiculous shite. A horror game, gunning down supernatural creatures with your laser-sighted .45's? Woo--how scary. Playing this after Undying also begs the Apocalypse Now and Rambo analogy.

[Andy K]

Originally posted by spatulalad
Metal Gear Solid 2

It was pretty, and the environmental interactivity was brilliant - but fuck, the story made me want to hit my head against a brick wall. It reached its nadir when Otacon had that incredibly embarassing freak-out over his sister's demise - caused by a goddamn parrot. I laughed and laughed, and then realized the game wanted me to take it seriously.

Yeah, I never got that far. I got as far as the subplot where the bombs expert CAN walk/run because he wasn't injured because 15 years ago that bomb was his fault and innocents died and yadda yadda yadda 20 minutes of BULLSHIT. I'm on a mission to RESCUE the PRESIDENT of the UNITED STATES from INTERNATIONAL TERRORISTS, and I have to listen to a 50 year old man whine like a fucking pussy for 20 minutes. If I were Sam Fisher from Splinter Cell I would have told him to get off the fucking line after about 5 seconds of that crap.

Plus the fact that the main character whines, asks why, etc, and pussies around while on a mission to RESCUE the PRESIDENT of the UNITED STATES from INTERNATIONAL TERRORISTS. Did I mention his girlfriend, who phones him on the Super Secret Wire Inmplants in his head like every 2 minutes while I'm on a mission to RESCUE the PRESIDENT of the UNITED STATES from INTERNATIONAL TERRORISTS to reminisce about "the time we took a picnic" or "do you still love me?".

Fucking worst game ever. Takes what could be one of the best games for the PS2 and injects it with 50CCs of Fucking Pussy Drama Shit. The equivalent would be like, say, taking a porno movie featuring gorgeous actors and actresses and every time things start to get heavy the couple breaks it off and plays the board game Monopoly for 10-15 minutes. Then, when they start to get heavy again, they break it off again and play Monopoly again, etc.

[braincraft]

Xenogears.


Giant kung fu robots. How the fuck can you get that wrong?

Just play up until just after the Solaris mission and stop dead right there.

[Cthulhu-chan]

Not a single mention of Daikatana? o_O

[JdRavnos]

Originally posted by Qusoor
Nocturne. What the FUCK? People loved this game, and I found it ridiculous shite. A horror game, gunning down supernatural creatures with your laser-sighted .45's? Woo--how scary. Playing this after Undying also begs the Apocalypse Now and Rambo analogy.

I didn't mind shooting zombies and whatnot, but the game was shite. You're blowing away something, take a step and the camera angle changes and you can't see what you're shooting. Then something attacks you from the back but you can't see it cause of the crappy angle you're looking at.

To add to the list:

Lighthouse. A Myst type game released by Sierra. The game was beautiful, and promised multiple endings and tons of neat gadgets to build and play with. Unfortnetly the game made it easy to move along and never realize that you forgot one thing and go through most of the game until you realize you're stuck and can't go back or forward.

Omikron: The Nomad Soul. Another visually impressive game that got neutered by self-censorship, and a overlly ambitous design. David Bowie was in it though, so it's not a total waste.

[mathey]

Originally posted by braincraft
Xenogears.


Giant kung fu robots. How the fuck can you get that wrong?

Just play up until just after the Solaris mission and stop dead right there.

Oh, shit.

Yeah.

Keep your theological discourse out of my kung fu robots.

[NPC Bonehead]

Star Control III
Nothing I can say can match what anyone else has said on the subject. A major WTF of the gaming world.

Ultima 8
What the heck happened? This thing hurt so much it made my eyes water for years. I really tried to like this game, I really did. And I failed miserably. This was a total suck-ass game.

Xenogears
Play until the first CD is done. Throw away the second CD and don't bother with anything else.

Metal Gear Solid 2
Great game, but terrible, terrible dull ending.

Dai Katana
Like we were expecting anything worthwhile? Normally I buy everything, but I got a cracked copy just to thumb my nose at John Romero.

Any superman game
'nuff said.

[Rezolution]

Originally posted by Qusoor
Nocturne. What the FUCK? People loved this game, and I found it ridiculous shite.

I did think it was scary in parts, but I couldn't stand the controls.

Timothy

[Rod Anderson]

Originally posted by Cthulhu-chan
Not a single mention of Daikatana? o_O


As I remember it anecdotally, Daikatana was dead in the water from the moment the reviews came in ("I played Daikatana and my brain still hurts"). I don't think enough people bought it in the first place for there to have been much disappointment.


-R

EDIT: See? NPC Bonehead didn't buy it!

[Rod Anderson]

Also, my pick is "Wipeout Fusion" for PS2, which inexplicably massacred the sweet future-racing action of Wipeout XL and Wipeout 3.

-R

[CyanideBreathmint]

Xenogears = some smartass at Squaresoft decided to cross G-Gundam with Evangelion.

The world hasn't been the same since.

- Mel

[Malestrithe]

Final Fantasy VI When I first saw this game, I jumped at the opportunity to play it. I rented that game for over three months playing it everyday looking for something new. After I got every character to level 99, learned all of Gau Rages, finished all of Shadow's dreams, (which was a big let down, BTW) mastered every ability, and witnessed all of the Desperation attacks, I decided to finished the game. After I realized that all I needed to do on Kefka was use Realms Sketch ability to kill him in one hit, I kind of turned me off toward the game. After witnessing the ending, I told myself, "Well, there is three months and $150 that you will never get back." Granted there are moments that are cool like the Opera House Performance and Racheal, but these do not make up for the ending. Play until the World of Ruin and do not even bother to finish the game and you will be happy.

Valkyrie Profile This game is fun to play with an great combat engine and cool magics. But the main plot is stupid. I found myself more interested in the characters subplots, especially Lucian, Lawfer, and Suoyo. I have seen all three endings. I realized that the steps to pull of the A ending made the thing not worth looking at. The bosses, especially Fenris, were difficult and they took over 15 minutes to defeat. Still it is a fun game, the first time played through.

[Valmont]

Originally posted by Magic Pink
-I did like that you could use the controllers as weapons MP
The Xbox controllers were clearly designed by Satan himself.

[Lugaru]

For me it was final fantasy 8 from square. The first cd felt so cool and important and stuff... but then as the game progresses nothing really happens. Just flashbacks from a crappy childhood... these explorers you dont care about... your main character who's a bigger stick in the mud than Cloud and all that. It feel so much more like a game than a race to save humanity...

And the magic system... doh!

[JdRavnos]

Originally posted by Valmont

The Xbox controllers were clearly designed by Satan himself.

Unh uh. Satan has small girlish hands, God is the one with the big meaty palms required to use the standard X-Box controller.

[Balthazor]

Originally posted by Andy Kitkowski


Plus the fact that the main character whines, asks why, etc, and pussies around while on a mission to RESCUE the PRESIDENT of the UNITED STATES from INTERNATIONAL TERRORISTS. Did I mention his girlfriend, who phones him on the Super Secret Wire Inmplants in his head like every 2 minutes while I'm on a mission to RESCUE the PRESIDENT of the UNITED STATES from INTERNATIONAL TERRORISTS to reminisce about "the time we took a picnic" or "do you still love me?".



Yeah, that's right. I thought that was a little funny, too. Here was Bon Jovi, in the midst of hundreds of bloodthirsty terrorists, with his idiot girlfriend nagging him about why he wouldn't open up to her. I just kept waiting for him to say "look, bitch, I'm in the middle of being shot at right now! Could you save your selfish little whining for another time?"

I wouldn't say that it was the worst game ever, but certainly could have, and should have, been a great deal better than it was.

[Seroster]

Originally posted by NPC Bonehead

Any superman game
'nuff said.

I definitely agree about Star Control 3 - what a letdown.

But have you tried Freedom Force? The first good superhero computer game, in my opinion.

[Rutherford]

Lords of Magic - Such absolute and utter crap. It could have been a good game, and I heard that the re-release after many more months of bug fixes was indeed playable. I didn't waste my money buying the same game twice.

[jackinabox]

Originally posted by spatulalad
[b]Metal Gear Solid 2

I didn't realize MS2 was even a videogame. All I remember is the countless hours of cutscences. If I wanted to watch an animated movie, I'd rent the DVD. What a waste...

[sys64738]

Originally posted by Andy Kitkowski
While I haven't played it myself, I've heard that Ultima 9, the final game in the series, basically takes the awesome and beautiful myth of the series, then force feeds it to coyotes, takes that coyote shit, runs it over in a pickup, and then ties chinese fireworks to it and watches it blow up. Whatever's left is dehydrated into dust, scooped into an urn, and then sold on eBay for 40 cents and Free Shipping.

-Andy

YES

[NPC TheDude]

In Metal Gear Solid 2, I would have loved to be able to toss that stupid little video phone out of my inventory. After a little bit of time fucking around on the oil platform, I just gave up on the game.









The Dude

[NPC Wizdoc]

Guess I'm a bit weird, but I LOVED both Metal Gear Solid 2 and Xenogears. I'm a sucker for bizarre anime melodrama laced with deep metaphysical and theological discussion.

That preference is probably the reason why I was disappointed with Tenchu 3. The plot was lame run-of-the-mill resurrection of a demon with an equally lame hunt of magical orbs on the side. Plus, they brought back Rikimaru without giving any good reason storywise, made no real attempt for a coherent plot and real dialogue and they STILL couldn't get rid of Onikage. That "haa-haa, I'm not dead yet" routine gets real old, real fast. Same goes for Syphon Filter 3.


Wizdoc

[Buddha Fett]

Off the top of my head...

Tao Feng: Fist of the Lotus: From the previews I'd seen/read of this, I was expecting the second coming of kung fu Jesus. Instead I get a frustratingly hard button-masher with a bunch of "features" which seem to just go off randomly, and the fucking game calls me cheap every two seconds, with no rhyme or reason. Did I mention that it's frustratingly hard? Because it is. It had me screaming "MOTHERFUCKER!" after about a minute and a half of playing.

Metal Gear Solid 2: Sons of Liberty: I believe this has been gone over several times before, but I'll chime in and agree. Also, I thought the bosses lacked the coolness of MGS's. Instead of bad-ass, highly skilled soldiers with a shade of weirdness to them, we have a water-walking vampire, a leprechaun, and a lard-ass on rollerblades.

The Thing: What the fuck are all these little goober things? How did every member of my group turn into monsters when they've never left my sight? Why am I playing this game?

Dead to Rights: Hey, remember that part in Hard Boiled where Chow Yun Fat leaps around that corner, both guns blazing, is shot to death by a couple lackeys, and then has to do it all over again, repeatedly? Wasn't that cool?

[Nobody]

I will concur with the V:tM: Redemption. I do like War of The Monsters however I found a reall quick way to rack up battle tokens.

[Malestrithe]

Originally posted by NPC Wizdoc
Guess I'm a bit weird, but I LOVED both Metal Gear Solid 2 and Xenogears. I'm a sucker for bizarre anime melodrama laced with deep metaphysical and theological discussion.
Wizdoc

I love Xenogears as well.

[Bahama'at]

Originally posted by NPC Wizdoc
Guess I'm a bit weird, but I LOVED both Metal Gear Solid 2 and Xenogears. I'm a sucker for bizarre anime melodrama laced with deep metaphysical and theological discussion.

Based on this thread I'm tempted to pick up Xenogears - I liked Evangelion. :)

- Ma'at

[Geza Echs]

The Blair Witch Project Trilogy. Oh dear sweet Jesus.

I bought all three games for the princely sum of five dollars. Spent one hour on each. Almost beat two of them.

Then I tossed them deep in a desk drawer under a ton of stuff and pretended that they didn't exist.

Crap crap crapitty crap crap crap!






Geza.

[Geza Echs]

Originally posted by Vegeta2300


OTOH, I grew up with LttP on the SNES, and I think OoT is great, and so is MM. For XMas this year it´s gonna be a GC with WW.


Oh, God! It looks like the infection is spreading!

In other words, what? o_O




Geza.

[Steve Conan Trustrum]

What, nobody has mentioned Star Wars: Rebellion or Star Wars: Force Commander yet? Blech, both games made my ears bleed.

[Geza Echs]

Originally posted by Buddha Fett

[B]The Thing: What the fuck are all these little goober things? How did every member of my group turn into monsters when they've never left my sight? Why am I playing this game?



WORD. I love how it's supposed to be a horror game, except that:

A) It's never actually scary.

B) You never even come close to running out of ammo.

C) Health is cheap and abundant -- if you die ever while playing this game, you should never be allowed to play another game again.




Geza.

[Christopher James Fedak]

Originally posted by Geza Echs



Oh, God! It looks like the infection is spreading!

In other words, what? o_O




Geza.

Xlation:

"On the other hand, I grew up with Lint to the Past on the Super Nintendo entertainment System. I think Oricina of Time is great and so is Majora's Mask. For Christmas this year it is going to be a Game cube with Wind Waker"

[Jack]

MOO3 is at least three of my top ten most disappointing games. Age of Wonders is at least 2. X-COM 2 might be the rest.

begin rant-

What? Is it so hard to program all that tricky gameplay that guys were able to include back when the graphic were just blobs on the screen. Would it kill someone to remake Sword of the Samurai and (gasp!) just add more gameplay and better graphics. Or Pirates? Or X-Com? Or Colonization? Or half the other games I enjoyed in the early 90s and late 80s.

For the love of god, just stop with the "Now with Geoforce 4 optimized graphics that we hope will make you forget that old KOEI games let you do more over 10 years ago." Argh.

end rant.

[wingedcoyote]

Originally posted by Steve Conan Trustrum
What, nobody has mentioned Star Wars: Rebellion or Star Wars: Force Commander yet? Blech, both games made my ears bleed.


It seems weird now, but when Rebellion came out I actually really liked it.



I was young, then, and stupid.

[Geza Echs]

Originally posted by Christopher James Fedak


Xlation:

"On the other hand, I grew up with Lint to the Past on the Super Nintendo entertainment System. I think Oricina of Time is great and so is Majora's Mask. For Christmas this year it is going to be a Game cube with Wind Waker"


Jesus, be careful! If you can understand it, then they have an in-road to infect you...

*shifts eyes*

... Unless they've already gotten to you, too.


:eek:




Geza.

[Christopher James Fedak]

I greatly enjoyed Rebellion. I ignored the droids, and enjoyed the game. It was neat-o.

I'm pretty sure I'd play it again, given time and inclination.

[Nainitsuj]

How about the most recent Pool of Radience?

The one game I ever returned. To a store with a no return policy. At which the manager saw what I was returning, and did an exchange without comment.

[Underdog]

Originally posted by Nainitsuj
How about the most recent Pool of Radience?


One of my friends got a copy of that game for free (10$ price tag + 10$ mail in rebate), just to find all the bugs. His comment: "I feel sorry for the people who paid 50$ for this."

[JdRavnos]

Originally posted by Underdog


One of my friends got a copy of that game for free (10$ price tag + 10$ mail in rebate), just to find all the bugs. His comment: "I feel sorry for the people who paid 50$ for this."

I feel sorry for the people who uninstalled the game and it wiped their harddrive. I mean you buy the game, aren't impressed with it, take it off, and it tears off your nuts for not liking it.

[Ab3]

Originally posted by Steve Conan Trustrum
What, nobody has mentioned Star Wars: Rebellion or Star Wars: Force Commander yet? Blech, both games made my ears bleed.


Actually I liked Star Wars: Rebellion but then again I just saw it as a PC version of the old FREEDOM IN THE GALAXY boardgame and I always wanted to play that game. None of my friends did.

[DeadBoy1]

Originally posted by Jack

What? Is it so hard to program all that tricky gameplay that guys were able to include back when the graphic were just blobs on the screen. Would it kill someone to remake Sword of the Samurai and (gasp!) just add more gameplay and better graphics. Or Pirates? Or X-Com? Or Colonization? Or half the other games I enjoyed in the early 90s and late 80s.

someone's working on remaking X-COM.
thank god, that's all i can say.
it's too bad the Dreamland Chronicles got canned, cause that looks awesome/amazing/best thing ever.
NatalieD, are you playing OoT on the gamecube? cause that might account for some of the crappiness, i hear the port is NOT up to par.
dissapointing games for me...
Final Fantasy 8. goodness, that game made me angry.
"Blah, blah, blah, AWESOME CUTSCENE, stupid mini-game, boring battles, annoying NPC, stupid plot twist, CRAPPY CUTSCENE, impossible boss cause i didn't level up enough..." ugh.
i think i'm on the second disc, but i haven't cared enough to try to finish it.
Um.
x-com 2, yes. It's X-COM, BUT HARDER! WHICH MAKES IT IMPOSSIBLE! oh, and we changed the graphics. it's not night-time, it's UNDERWATER!

[Gloombunny]

Originally posted by DeadBoy1

NatalieD, are you playing OoT on the gamecube? cause that might account for some of the crappiness, i hear the port is NOT up to par.

I am, but many of the issues I have with it are not the sort of things that would crop up in a bad port.

[True Blue]

Cure for Final Fantasy VIII: Treat it like MST3k

[jackinabox]

Just about any James Bond game for the PS2.

While I like most EA sports games, they continue to drop the ball with this 1st Person Shooter franchise.

[007Bistromath]

Originally posted by Balthazor
5 - Perfect Dark:(Nintendo 64) After the brilliance of Goldeneye, Perfect Dark was a game I would have killed my grandmother to get. By midway through, I'd have killed myself if it meant not having to play it any further. I don't know why, but it absolutely bored me to tears. I played through it as quick as I could so as to be able to still get a good trade-in value for it at Funcoland.I am absolutely certain we did not play the same game. While the SP missions weren't tops, they were definitely above average. And even with all the cool stuff I've seen on meh compy, (which admittedly isn't much) I still rate PD as having TEH ULTIMAAT MULTIPLAYER EVAR!!1!~ It just rocked. If they made a new PD with updated graphics and netplay, I would take anal from a Cactuer to buy it.

007Bistromath wants it!

[Rod Anderson]

Originally posted by 007Bistromath
If they made a new PD with updated graphics and netplay, I would take anal from a Cactuer to buy it.




YAAAAAAARGH!


-R

[Jay Sharp]

<b>Vagrant Story:</b> Awesome story, too bad mastery of that retarded weapon smithing system was required to progress more than four or five bosses into the game.

<b>Final Fantasy 9:</b> You know, I loved the old 16-bit FFs, and all the reviews said that this game was made for folks that wanted to see those classics on a modern console. But, unfortunately, the programers decided to focus on all the stupid crap (deformed bodies, shallow character concepts, midevil chliques, boring dungeons, ect) in the oldies that my nostolgia had allowed me to forget.

<b>Metal Gear solid 2:</b> I think when Ocelot started doing his Evil Dead impression, I knew this wasnt the game I wanted.

[007Bistromath]

Originally posted by Rod Anderson
YAAAAAAARGH!

-R Glad to be of service.

007Bistromath, a bearer of great talent.

[Balthazor]

Originally posted by 007Bistromath
I am absolutely certain we did not play the same game. While the SP missions weren't tops, they were definitely above average. And even with all the cool stuff I've seen on meh compy, (which admittedly isn't much) I still rate PD as having TEH ULTIMAAT MULTIPLAYER EVAR!!1!~ It just rocked. If they made a new PD with updated graphics and netplay, I would take anal from a Cactuer to buy it.

007Bistromath wants it!

Maybe my expectations were just too high. I didn't think it was a bad game, but it was disappointing since I didn't find it anywhere near as interesting as Goldeneye. I also didn't care much for the sci-fi elements of the game, either. I much preferred the more contemporary settings of Goldeneye.

BTW, you do realize that a new Perfect Dark is coming to Xbox, right?

[Flower of December]

Mortal Kombat: Dark Alliance
It's MK in 3d except it's more like 2d with a sidestep feature, which places it at around Fatal Fury in terms of how modern it is, except that it also plays slow as a 3d fighter. Not to mention the painful combo system.

[007Bistromath]

Originally posted by Balthazor
Maybe my expectations were just too high. I didn't think it was a bad game, but it was disappointing since I didn't find it anywhere near as interesting as Goldeneye. I also didn't care much for the sci-fi elements of the game, either. I much preferred the more contemporary settings of Goldeneye.The setting thing I can understand. Some people don't like aliens. But how was Goldeneye generally more interesting than PD? I mean sure, GE was a groundbreaking work in its field, bringing kickass-bad shooters to the console in a big way. But as far as I can see, PD was a better version of GE, in almost all respects. It had all the bells and whistles of a computer FPS without having to download any mods. That rocks.BTW, you do realize that a new Perfect Dark is coming to Xbox, right? Yah, I do. When I manage to remember, which isn't often, that's one of the many reasons I list for my plans of getting an X-box over either of the other two current-gen systems, no matter how much everybody's creaming over the impending greatness of the PS3.

007Bistromath doesn't see how a regular production system (PS-whatever) could ever be better than what I'm pretty sure is an upgradeable one. (X-box)

But have fun telling that to all my console junky friends who know jack shit about real computers...

[Topher]

Originally posted by Jack
MOO3 is at least three of my top ten most disappointing games. Age of Wonders is at least 2. X-COM 2 might be the rest.

begin rant-

What? Is it so hard to program all that tricky gameplay that guys were able to include back when the graphic were just blobs on the screen. Would it kill someone to remake Sword of the Samurai and (gasp!) just add more gameplay and better graphics. Or Pirates? Or X-Com? Or Colonization? Or half the other games I enjoyed in the early 90s and late 80s.

For the love of god, just stop with the "Now with Geoforce 4 optimized graphics that we hope will make you forget that old KOEI games let you do more over 10 years ago." Argh.

end rant.

PIRATES!!!

I always ended up marrying the ugly woman, for some reason.

Topher
(would love to see an update of that game)

[adamsmith]

I have to disagree - Vagrant Story was one of my top 5 games of the last decade...

[Qusoor]

Originally posted by Topher


PIRATES!!!

I always ended up marrying the ugly woman, for some reason.

Topher
(would love to see an update of that game)
I always chose the redhead. And I fucking kicked ass at duels.

Yep, this game needs an update.

[Jack]

Originally posted by Qusoor

I always chose the redhead. And I fucking kicked ass at duels.

Yep, this game needs an update.

I usually went for one of the brunettes, and the also thought the "second ugliest" one was actually one of the more attractive (man you'd think that the geeks who make PC games would realize that glasses do not equal less attractive).

[sys64738]

That cowardly pirate, Marquis Villanova, is chasing us, captain!

PS

Crappy PC game: Bloodwych

[Soulcatcher]

Originally posted by Tiama'at
Originally posted by NPC Wizdoc
Guess I'm a bit weird, but I LOVED both Metal Gear Solid 2 and Xenogears. I'm a sucker for bizarre anime melodrama laced with deep metaphysical and theological discussion.

Based on this thread I'm tempted to pick up Xenogears - I liked Evangelion. :)

- Ma'at

Do so, you probably won't be disappointed. Xenogears is what happens when Evangelion drinks a fifth of something poisonously hallucinogenic and dumps most of the whiny fourteen year old protagonists.

[Kai Tave]

Yeah, but good luck even FINDING Xenogears. It wasn't exactly easy to come by when it was a new release.

[Malestrithe]

Originally posted by Kai Tave
Yeah, but good luck even FINDING Xenogears. It wasn't exactly easy to come by when it was a new release.

go to playonline.com ans look around there.

[Mossy Mole]

Originally posted by lugaru
For me it was final fantasy 8 from square. The first cd felt so cool and important and stuff... but then as the game progresses nothing really happens. Just flashbacks from a crappy childhood... these explorers you dont care about... your main character who's a bigger stick in the mud than Cloud and all that. It feel so much more like a game than a race to save humanity...

And the magic system... doh!


Yep, squall was annoying , I coud'nt finish it mainly because of the loathing i developed for him

not to mention the disapointment after the wonderful FF 7

[Kenshiro]

I'll chime and say that I'm one of those weird guys who also liked Metal Gear Solid 2 and Xenogears. Hell, I'm enjoying Xenosaga and can't wait for the rest. I guess the fact that Raiden and Fei reminded me of my little brother helped ease the pain... ;)

As for dissapointing games:

Final Fantasy X: OK, I don't mind playing a pretty boy, but did Tidus have to look like Meg Ryan?

Project IGI: I thought this was going to be a cool PC version of MGS and Syphon Filter. Blegh...

Morrowind: I would've liked it better if the combat system didn't make me fall sleep...

[ahtzib]

I gotta second or third X-Com 2. No change in game play, except some names are changed and that the game is now impossibly hard. Some improvement in graphics, such as the cruise ship or some of the monsters, but everything else looks worse.

And they took away all the cool UFO elements which made the game that much cooler. I always put my first base in Nevada, made it Area 51, and got to work on Elerium 115, because it seemed appropriate. I've seen the remake sort of thing that's being made, but don't like the post-apocalyptic setting. Were I to do a remake, I'd love to include some kind of MIB/MJ-12 information gathering element. Basically, in addition to direct sightings of UFO activity, there might be gems of useful of info within a monthly report of UFO sightings and whatnot, collected by MIBs as part of the infrastructure (like engineers or scientists)

[Arbane the Terrible]

Nobody's mentioned Civilization 3 yet? I'm shocked.

Or maybe I'm the only one who hasn't learned to appreciate the subtle joy of spending 60 rounds working on a Wonder, only to have a civilization I've never heard of beat me to it by ONE ROUND, forcing me to redirect all that effort into the Most Expensive Barracks In History. Or the FUN of trying to build the Forbidden City to cure the corruption in a distant city, only to realize that that same corruption means it'll take 300 years. Or the delight of building the UN, only to lose the game instantly as one of my neighbors immediately gets elected World Overlord. Or the lack of the cool movies from Civ2. Or the sheer glee of getting wedged into a resource-free territory, with my neighbors building new cities in spaces I couldn't cram a scout unit into. Or... Or....

Ah, screw it. I'm gonna go play Alpha Centauri again.

[RedFox]

Ultima IX: Ascension was far worse than VIII, simply because VIII was only Super Avatar Bros. while Ascension just took the whole gameline and everything that made it special and pissed all over it. (I liked being able to once again get the Avatar to get busy with a gay whore though. This time it only took some snake venom!)

Xenogears rocked. Do not disparage Xenogears.

I also hated Final Fantasy IX. That game was dull as hell. Even though the protagonist was a mildly cute furry boy (yum) he was as interesting as a cardboard standup. Actually, EVERY character was. And story... what story? Ugh. It was the worst product of the "nostalgia is better" mode of thinking. Square tried to go back to its roots with that series but went back to the WRONG root. :P

[Teemu K. Lohenoja]

Originally posted by Arbane the Terrible
Nobody's mentioned Civilization 3 yet? I'm shocked.

Or maybe I'm the only one who hasn't learned to appreciate the subtle joy of spending 60 rounds working on a Wonder, only to have a civilization I've never heard of beat me to it by ONE ROUND, forcing me to redirect all that effort into the Most Expensive Barracks In History. Or the FUN of trying to build the Forbidden City to cure the corruption in a distant city, only to realize that that same corruption means it'll take 300 years.

Civ 3 wouldn't be that bad if (and it's a big if) the corruption system wasn't so bad. It's basicly impossible to build large empires that work. It's like, as if all the west coast american cities couldn't build anything because they are too far away from Washington. I just don't understand why you can simply pay the local governments more money to stop them taking bribes.

Oh, and the fact that everything takes decades or even centuria to do. WW2 would probably take a millennium.
But that's a problem with every Civilization and most similar games.

[Scott_Lynch]

Steve Trustrum wrote:

<b>What, nobody has mentioned Star Wars: Rebellion or Star Wars: Force Commander yet? Blech, both games made my ears bleed.</b>

I concur on Force Commander, but... Rebellion is possibly my favorite PC game of all time. It has so many elements that appeal to my anal-retentive wargames dork side, it's not even funny. I can discourse at length about all of its glaring problems, but despite 'em, there's no game I'd rather play in multi-player. Not StarCraft, not Unreal Tournament 2, not even Civ 2 hotseat. I know this marks me as a freakish mutant, but my little brother's the same way, and as soon as he finishes his LAN setup in our parents' house, we're gonna have a big fat *Rebellion* rumble.

Temu wrote:

<b>Civ 3 wouldn't be that bad if (and it's a big if) the corruption system wasn't so bad. It's basicly impossible to build large empires that work. It's like, as if all the west coast american cities couldn't build anything because they are too far away from Washington. I just don't understand why you can simply pay the local governments more money to stop them taking bribes.

Oh, and the fact that everything takes decades or even centuria to do. WW2 would probably take a millennium.</b>

Agreed!

My problem with Civ 3 is two-fold. First, the vaunted AI has only two actual patterns of behavior... futile aggression and aggravatingly pointless border incursion. Given enough time, the dirty computer bastards will fill in literally every gap in your culture's frontier and then some, building settlement after settlement a stone's throw from a big city of yours, despite the indefensible, resource-poor village doomed to be the result of such a plan.

My other complaint is that even a modest-sized culture of 8-12 cities could compete rather well with the computer players in Civ II, the minimum required in 3 to even be a contender in the tech and culture battle is 18-24. Endless breakneck expansion and compounding government minutiae just isn't much fun.

Cheers,

SL

P.S. I don't really know what to say about *Perfect Dark.* It's like two games... a really mediocre single-player game and a bloody brilliant multi-player game. My girlfriend and out friend Jason regularly get together and have massive shoot-em-ups agains small armies of MeatSims. And there is much rejoicing.

[NPC Mildaene]

Originally posted by Malestrithe
Final Fantasy VI When I first saw this game, I jumped at the opportunity to play it. I rented that game for over three months playing it everyday looking for something new. After I got every character to level 99, learned all of Gau Rages, finished all of Shadow's dreams, (which was a big let down, BTW) mastered every ability, and witnessed all of the Desperation attacks, I decided to finished the game. After I realized that all I needed to do on Kefka was use Realms Sketch ability to kill him in one hit, I kind of turned me off toward the game. After witnessing the ending, I told myself, "Well, there is three months and $150 that you will never get back." Granted there are moments that are cool like the Opera House Performance and Racheal, but these do not make up for the ending. Play until the World of Ruin and do not even bother to finish the game and you will be happy.

Well duh... if level up to a god status, don't complain that the game is too easy. The Last boss was actually quite a challenge when done with normal characters. I also LOVED the ending. The game story was quite good too, not to mention the game mechanics. Hardly worth a "most disappointing video game" award imho.

Valkyrie Profile This game is fun to play with an great combat engine and cool magics. But the main plot is stupid. I found myself more interested in the characters subplots, especially Lucian, Lawfer, and Suoyo. I have seen all three endings. I realized that the steps to pull of the A ending made the thing not worth looking at. The bosses, especially Fenris, were difficult and they took over 15 minutes to defeat. Still it is a fun game, the first time played through. [/QUOTE]

Again, I disagree. This game has one of the best atmospheres I've ever experienced in a game (gathering heroes as they're dying helps to create a unique feel :) ).


To each their own I guess...


My vote goes to Lands of Lore 3.
LoL1 was EXCELLENT, LoL2 was good too. LoL3 was a huge pile of stinking $#!t. 2 CDs, long loading times, SHORT SHORT SHORT game, maybe one or two special items to collect... a huge letdown for me as I was expecting something at least as good as the 2nd one, and it turned out to be one of the crappiest things I've ever played.


-Mildaene.

[goldbricker]

Evil Dead: Hail to the King (Dreamcast)

after a lot of talking-up by Evil Dead fans, i finally snagged a copy of this for my dreamcast about a month or so back. i still have no idea what happened to the entertainment that i paid for.

the horribly awkward controls make it near impossible to develop any kind of a combat strategy (which is very much required as you actually have to aim your blows to do any great damage to the enemy) and give the impression that they were designed by amphetamine-driven monkeys (because failing to aim your blows properly, the only hope of actually killing an enemy lies in randomly mashing buttons like an amphetamine-driven monkey).

add to this enemies that randomly and repeatedly pop up in a Gauntlet-style fashion, and you've got the makings of a mindless kill and slay game that you'll grow tired of in about thirty minutes (if not sooner).

add to this the fact that despite the ability of any given enemy to move faster than a souped-up sportscar, you can only walk about as fast as a geriatric grandmother sans walker, and you've got the making of mindless frustration that will drive you insane in about thirty minutes (if not sooner).

finally, to top it all off, the graphics are sub-par at best (at worst, they look like they were rendered in MS Paint).

final verdict: shoot it in the head - it's the only way to be sure.

goldbricker

[Hurtfulpotato]

Regarding SW: Rebellion: My biggest problem with the game was that if you had fairly large forces, the enemy would just run away. Then there's the fact that it was impractical to make enough forces to garrison all your worlds, so you were constantly trying to take back systems. Overall, it was fairly cool, but it could have been done better. Maybe if the game designers had said "Gee, the 3d space combat dealie's fun. Nothing else is anymore - not even sex with my wife. The game ruined that. Why don't we dump the crappy 4x game and just make a 3d Star Wars space tactical game? We can even call it Fleet Commander and then go and make another fucking Sam and Max game. Or even do an updated Tie Fighter. And since we're back in the magical land of 1998, we can kill George Lucas before he makes episodes 1 and 2. I'll just stab him in the neck with a letter opener right after I write up this letter on why Day of the Tentacle never got the praise it deserved."













Okay, I'm sorry. I didn't know I had that much Lucasarts-related hostility in me. On with the bad games!

Black and White: Peter Molyneaux had a brilliant, groundbreaking idea. He then took it and used it to make an incredibly boring game.

Sim Farm: Sim Farm is the opposite of Black and White. It's a terrible idea that somehow became a horribly addictive game. Seriously, I played the hell out of that game, and I still have no idea why it was fun. I suspect mind control rays.

Every MMORPG Ever: There's no gameplay. As soon as someone makes an MMORPG that doesn't suck, it'll be the best game ever created. That game is still years away.

Myst: It was pretty, but the puzzles were asinine, and the load times (when it came out) were horrendous. Whatever Myst was, it wasn't a game - it was more like a pastoral Powerpoint presentation.

[Ravi]

Originally posted by Kai Tave
Yeah, but good luck even FINDING Xenogears. It wasn't exactly easy to come by when it was a new release.

That's odd. I see used copies fairly often -- there are three or four at the local Game Exchange.

-r

[Arbane the Terrible]

Originally posted by Ravi

That's odd. I see used copies fairly often -- there are three or four at the local Game Exchange.


How much are they going for?
I don't want one, I just have a pet theory that the best indicator of a game's long-term value is how much second-hand copies cost a year later.

[Malestrithe]

Originally posted by NPC Mildaene


Well duh... if level up to a god status, don't complain that the game is too easy. The Last boss was actually quite a challenge when done with normal characters. I also LOVED the ending. The game story was quite good too, not to mention the game mechanics. Hardly worth a "most disappointing video game" award imho.
-Mildaene.

You can, at any level, kill Kefka in one hit using Realm's Sketch ability. Try it.

[NPC HaloGod]

Originally posted by Magic Pink
Devil May Cry - lame.

Grand Theft Auto III - immature drivel.

Harvest Moon: Save the Homeland - like someone was stabbing me in the head.

Monster Rancher 3 - WAY too easy.

Black and White - frustration, thy name is this fucking game.

Halo - wake me when it gets interesting.

Might and Magic IX - kill me. Please.

Super Mario Sunshine - Hey! I get to JUMP some more! But I have so many fucking moves I can barely control myself! Give. Me. Bazooka.

Phantasy Star Online for GC - Here's on online game, but don't talk to anyone ok? Now give us 10 bucks a month. Oh, and we'll be cutting dime sized chunks out of your anus too.

Xbox in general - I love how the games challenge me by randomly crashing and freezing up. I bet I paid more for those "features" too!

-bitter bitter MP

halo rockz u biatch ! see ya on gamespy and i'll r4p3 u every time

[Jack]

Oh yeah, Evil Dead: Hail to King also sucked.

[007Bistromath]

Originally posted by NPC HaloGod
halo rockz u biatch ! see ya on gamespy and i'll r4p3 u every time This is a joke, right?

I mean, I agree that Halo is cool, but...

FUCK.

007Bistromath, aghast.

[Marius B]

Star Control 3 takes the grand prize as the absolutely worst. As far as i can tell, it was impossible to control the damn ships.

Silver. Defeat a bunch of demons. Go on to next screen. Defeat an identical bunch of demons. Go on to next screen. Defeat et.c.

Deus Ex. Too damn difficult and ultimately dull. I wanted to run around and shoot things, not blow myself to smithereens over and over in the damn training level.

RedJack. Adventure game. Almost as exciting as watching paint dry. Almost, but not quite. Yawn.

Stupid Invaders. Not remotely as hilarious as some reviewers made it out to be.

Imperialism. Boring, predictable progression. Some of the dumbest AIs ever.

[Robovski]

Originally posted by Topher


PIRATES!!!

I always ended up marrying the ugly woman, for some reason.

Topher
(would love to see an update of that game)

Pirates was absolutely great, and I miss it dearly. Never has a better pirate game for the PC been made.

On a different note, I disagree with Fallout 2. I love that game, and my wife loved it too. There were some bugs, but a happy patch download later and you're good to go on a great game.

[Gloombunny]

Originally posted by Marius_Bredsdorff Deus Ex. Too damn difficult and ultimately dull. I wanted to run around and shoot things, not blow myself to smithereens over and over in the damn training level.

Odd. I thouht Deus Ex was far too easy. Were you playing it on PC or a console?

[Selfloathing]

I see why this is a RPG fourm and not a video game one.

[NPC Dave]

Originally posted by JdRavnos
I've never had those problems with my X-Box either.



Quest for Glory 5. Cancelled once, many fans of the series thought we'd never get the last chapter of the series. Almost wish we hadn't. The game has rushed all over it. Many promised features were never added (like multiplayer). And the story was kinda painful, and the ending was predictable and lackluster. *Double sigh*

I do agree about the rushed game, and the broken promise of providing the multiplayer feature later.

I don't so much agree with you on the story, but I have to ask about your comment on the ending

SPOILER




You predicted that the master villain would kill himself?

[JdRavnos]

Originally posted by NPC Dave


I do agree about the rushed game, and the broken promise of providing the multiplayer feature later.

I don't so much agree with you on the story, but I have to ask about your comment on the ending

SPOILER




You predicted that the master villain would kill himself?

Not so much that (kinda forgot about that really), but I was expecting all the good guys togather together, beat the dragon and you become king and win your bride (though I suppose that depends on your choices and actions). It's not so much what happened as much as how they had it happen, it's seems very cliched and not nearly as rewarding as the endings for all the other games in the series.

[Pseudo Nymh]

I loved the gameplay for Metal Gear Solid 2, but about the time Raiden gets all naked I quit reading any text. The game was a lot better that way. When I tried to figure out what was going on I found myself seriously contemplating committing in-game suicide to help Raiden out.

I agree with Final Fantasy 8, although I happen to think rather highly of 9.

Also agree with Vagrant Story. Too clunky, too difficult, too...everything, really.

I'll toss in a vote for Grand Theft Auto 3. Fun gameplay, but I had to try missions over and over again until I somehow figured out the exact way to finish them, or was just lucky enough to get it right by accident. Too much frustration.

Then again, maybe I just suck. :p

[Malestrithe]

E.T. the Extraterrestial for the Atari. This game was the same thing over and over again: Get abandoned on earth, Find Elliot, Raide a flower, remove lost pet for well, go into mother ship. Repeat ad Infinitum.

[NPC Dave]

Originally posted by JdRavnos


Not so much that (kinda forgot about that really), but I was expecting all the good guys togather together, beat the dragon and you become king and win your bride (though I suppose that depends on your choices and actions). It's not so much what happened as much as how they had it happen, it's seems very cliched and not nearly as rewarding as the endings for all the other games in the series.

Ok, I do know what you mean. The designers admitted they needed a more elaborate ending, but they ran out of time.

But like you said there were variations of the ending depending on the character you played and the choices you make. If you never tried it as a thief, let's just say it is possible for Ferrari to show up and have the last word. A few people who played through it the first time finished the game saying, "Why that son of a ..."

For me, when Minos finished his rant and stepped off the balcony, that was one of the coolest computer gaming moments evar.

[Balthazor]

Here's another new entry into the "Most Disappointing" list:

Clocktower 3: (PS2) Another game that IGN raved about for months yet which turned out to be a game that brings monotony to new heights. It's got an interesting premise, good visuals, quality voice acting (by videogame standards, anyhow), but a really, really poor execution. In fact, the execution of this game is virtually identical to that of Adventure for the old Atari 2600, only with serial killers instead of duck-looking dragons.

For those who are looking for some good horror gaming to tide you over until Silent Hill 3 or Resident Evil 4, look elsewhere. This ain't it.

[Anton]

Final Fantasy 8 is a very good game I have played i 2 times it´s very interesting. It has cool characters an exciting story and good gameplay. The music is very good and it has cool graphics. I don´t understand why you don´t like it. I´ve palyed FF7 and it´s very good game too. Havent palyed X or IX yet but I´m looking forward too.

[MuscaDomestica]

Originally posted by Desert Coyote
<b>Final Fantasy 9:</b> You know, I loved the old 16-bit FFs, and all the reviews said that this game was made for folks that wanted to see those classics on a modern console. But, unfortunately, the programers decided to focus on all the stupid crap (deformed bodies, shallow character concepts, midevil chliques, boring dungeons, ect) in the oldies that my nostolgia had allowed me to forget.

Yep FF9, Because the reason why people hated 8 was the fact that it had realistically preportioned characters. The game was kind of fun but had some major problems like when I found out that I missed a quest becasue I didn't leave a building and investigate everyone in a town at every opertunity...

FF8. "Look at us we are all powerful merconaries in training! Crap I have to leave the mission because I hurt some girl's fealings!" My jaw dropped at that. I have no clue why anyone would hire SeeDs for anything. Also it had the worst magic system and XP system I have seen in an RPG. Only game I know of where it penalized you for exploring and winning battles.

Originally posted by hurtfulpotato
Sim Farm: Sim Farm is the opposite of Black and White. It's a terrible idea that somehow became a horribly addictive game. Seriously, I played the hell out of that game, and I still have no idea why it was fun. I suspect mind control rays.

You too! I still played the damn game once I found out you could drive prices up by releasing a disaster.

And Civ 3. the corruption sucked. The AI was annoying as hell. And I have no clue why they made such un-balanced nations. Also there is nothing more fun then finding out late game that in your large empire you have NO saltpetter or worse, rubber while everyone else seems to be doing fine.

[Simulacrum]

Republic the Revolution: It got the best of E3 award, fucking 2 years ago when they previewed that piece of shit, and fucking Compusa has a no returns unless damage policy.



I want my $40 back Eidos

[Sangrolu]

I don't buy as many videogames as I used to -- due in part to finding I was always disappointed with them -- but here goes.

MOO3 - Has already been mentioned. Uh, guys... RTS? In a turn based strategy game?

Final Fantasy 8 - Could not get into the plot, did not care about the characters, and having to build weapons and chase collectable cards were game features that really did not do it for me. (FWIW, I think the graphics were fine.)

Starfleet Command: Empires at War: I was looking for a standalone game, they gave me an online game. The stand alone playability of this one sucks, in contrast to the first one which was great.

[Jason Panella]

I love the extreme thread necromancy at work here.

Project IGI: I loved the outdoor levels, I loved how the weapons were done, I thought the story was okay, I couldn't stand anything else. It had SO MUCH potential, but blew it all. I didn't get to play the second one, so I'm wondering what it's like.

Undying: This wasn't a bad game, per se, just the pure creepiness of the first few parts eventually morphed into run-and-gun tactics near the end. For every part that rocked, there were parts like...the most ridiculous end boss ever.

Halo: For the insane compliments I've heard, when I finally played it, I was impressed by the graphics...and...not the gameplay. Cool story, though.

[Ninjafingers]

Originally posted by Steve Conan Trustrum
What, nobody has mentioned Star Wars: Rebellion or Star Wars: Force Commander yet? Blech, both games made my ears bleed.

I knew these games would eventually come up. I'm just surprised it too this long. All right, let's make this quick.

Ahem...I liked these two games. I beat Rebellion twice and almost beat Force Commander (my hard drive crashed and I never got around to loading the saved game on my new drive).

Rebellion had to be the better game for me, especially when I sent Darth Vader out on a "morale boosting" mission.

As for Top 10 bad games:
10) Ghosts and Goblins
9) Ghouls and Ghosts
8) Super Ghosts and Goblins
7) Deadly Towers
6) Aztec Adventure
5) Keith Courage
4) Any PSX wrestling title
3) Any N64 fighting game
2) Nearly every 3D game on the Saturn
1) Sewer Shark

[Tracker7]

NASCAR Thunder 2002. Bleah.

Might not have sucked so much had I bought it before I picked up Gran Turismo 3, however.

[cbeilby]

Originally posted by Kai Tave
Yeah, but good luck even FINDING Xenogears. It wasn't exactly easy to come by when it was a new release.

Should be easier to find soon. It's been added to the Greatest Hits line, at last.

[wingedcoyote]

Devil May Cry. Fun at first, when learning new moves and such comes a bit quicker and the enemies let you get away with a bit more goofing around. Quickly becomes much, much less so. And the static backgrounds are an obvious and painful flaw in my book, though I understand it's a standard thing in survival horror.


Wild Arms 2. God, but I loved the first game. Cool characters, awesome setting, best music ever... second one was just dull dull dull. Like a dull ripoff of the first one mixed with a dull ripoff of FF8. Put me off buying the third.

[wingedcoyote]

Originally posted by braincraft
Xenogears.


Giant kung fu robots. How the fuck can you get that wrong?

Just play up until just after the Solaris mission and stop dead right there.


Best. Game. Ever.


Like Evangelion made cool (which is fucking hard to believe) mixed with cool characters and a great system.


Well... it was awesome except for the horrible horrible horrible "climb the tower" part. That was really bad, I admit.

[JdRavnos]

Originally posted by wingedcoyote
Best. Game. Ever.


Like Evangelion made cool (which is fucking hard to believe) mixed with cool characters and a great system.


Well... it was awesome except for the horrible horrible horrible "climb the tower" part. That was really bad, I admit.

I believe the "climb the tower" part was where I stopped playing. I don't recall if if it was because of that or memory card hiccup or what that made me stop, but I do remember being really frustrated with it. "Who put a snuck a platformer into my CRPG?"

[CyberE]

Birthright.

Birthright had all the right parts, the right premise and it was cool as hell but it didnt work. The game felt like an early beta and should have been at least six month more in development. There was patches but even patched the game had so many bugs that it was nearly unplayable. A bugfree Birthright would probably be my fav game ever.


/Erik

[Jason Panella]

Originally posted by AEGHunter007
NASCAR Thunder 2002. Bleah.


The 'NASCAR' in the title is a big warning shot.

[Underdog]

Tokyo Xtreme Racer

Good reviews, and it was cheap, so I picked it up. I played it once, realized there was no way I was playing a racer on the Dreamcast analog stick, and put it on the shelf to never be played again.

[Christopher the Plumped]

Lost Kingdom: I saw this at Blockbuster and grab it since the games I went their for were gone and it looked pretty decent. This game was HORRID!

Lost Kingdom II: I don't know why I grabbed this, maybe out of hope that it would of been better then the first one. It was worse then the one before it.

[Mr_Pleasington]

Robotech: Battlecry

Once the "Holy Shit I'm flying a Veritech!" excitement wears off, the game drifts into repetitive mediocreness. Huge disappointment.

[_Gabriel]

Originally posted by Mr_Pleasington
Robotech: Battlecry

Once the "Holy Shit I'm flying a Veritech!" excitement wears off, the game drifts into repetitive mediocreness. Huge disappointment.

Game based off of movie or TV show = check

Cel Shaded Graphics = check

Bottom Feeder developers (TDK) = check


As you can see, before you even get to the game itself, Robotech: Battlecry met many of the requirements for a TOTALLY FUCKING SUCKY GAME. It never had a chance.

The GBA scrolling shooter is much more fun. It's still not an "A" list title, but it's entertaining.

[Mr_Pleasington]

Every other cel shaded game I've played (save Robotech) has been jolly fun. Jet Grind Radio and Zelda: TWW topping the list, of course.

Perhaps I just haven't played the bad ones...

[valen]

I don't think nearly enough scorn has been heaped on Civ3 in this thread.

Nobody even mentioned the combat model... I mean everybody has head the battleship verus trireme debacle, but these weren't isolated incidents.... On one occasion I remember being all excited because I got semi modern infantry, you know guys with bolt action rifles and support machine guns... bad asses compared to the civil war infantry that loser AI was using. So I declair war on the AI and proceed to lose several cities, all defended by infantry dug-in, to attacks by horesman. Thats right... the FREAKING mongol horseman... Not just one city, but most of the war... to FREAKING mongol horseman...

I think I'm never going to be able to play another sid meyer game agian...

[MACH RIDER]

Originally posted by Ninjafingers

As for Top 10 bad games:
10) Ghosts and Goblins
9) Ghouls and Ghosts
8) Super Ghosts and Goblins


You, sir, have offended me! :)

I love the G&G games, because they're REALLY FUCKING HARD!

Ocarina of Time was the game I was most disappointed by. It was far too easy with its "extra life" fairies. Somehow, I did manage to die six times during the game, even though I shouldn't have. Beyond that, it just didn't seem that great. Maybe I just miss 2D rectangular-roomed dungeons. I didn't even play Majora's Mask, and I gave up on The Wind Waker when it turned into Metal Gear at the beginning.

I was disappointed by Castlevania: Symphony of the Night. I'm a huge Castlevania fan, and I'd heard great things about SotN, so, when I finally saw a used copy, I bought it. It's not a bad game, but it has mediocre graphics, bad voice acting, and it's just too easy. Plus, you don't use a whip. Circle of the Moon for the GBA was better - it combined the Metroid style with better overall gameplay.

I liked MGS2. A lot. I'm now trying to play it on Extreme with the "Game Over if Discovered" option. It's fun. :D

[Knuckle Sammich]

Damn, I wish I read this thread before I picked up Civ 3 on the weekend..... That piece of crap is getting traded in at first opportunity.

I don't understand the appeal of the series of Final Fantasy games where you play a boring, brooding dipshit who's only contribution to a conversation is "....."

[Arbane the Terrible]

Originally posted by MACH RIDER
I was disappointed by Castlevania: Symphony of the Night. I'm a huge Castlevania fan, and I'd heard great things about SotN, so, when I finally saw a used copy, I bought it. It's not a bad game, but it has mediocre graphics, bad voice acting, and it's just too easy. Plus, you don't use a whip.

If you beat it once, you can play as Richter Belmont, which is quite a bit harder.

And it's one of my two favorite 2d platform games--the other one is Metal Slug 3.

But, yeah, the voice-acting is fairly dire. Thankfully, the actors in more recent games seem to be laying off of the quaaludes before the recording sessions.

[Q99]

Originally posted by valen

I think I'm never going to be able to play another sid meyer game agian...

If you haven't played Alpha Centauri, change that.

I shall be cautious of the next civ game, though.

[Arbane the Terrible]

Originally posted by Q99
If you haven't played Alpha Centauri, change that.

I shall be cautious of the next civ game, though.

Agreed on both counts. AlphaC is a great game. The Civ basic idea, and a lot of good extensions, well-executed.

IMGLO, CivIII had a bunch of good ideas, poorly executed.

[Enforcer5981]

Enter the Matrix was really boring after a level or so, the only thing remotely interesting about it were all the cutscenes. With all the kung fu in the movies, why weren't the martial arts more developed than "click at the guy"?

Civ 3 did get old when I still had modern armor getting injured by spearmen. At some point you have to program the game to have some units automatically lose to superior ones, without the technological wonders you're using being harmed in the slightest.

Pool of Radiance was worth less than the contents of grandpa's colostomy bag. My god was that game awful. I can't think of one redeeming quality.

I actually liked Vampire: Redemption. Especially when Christof wakes up after a few centuries in the Society of Leopold (my surname, by the way) warehouse. Unleashing ancient fury on those poor bastards was excellent fun!

To whomever said Deus Ex was hard: huh? That game was pretty easy, even for a guy like me who doesn't exactly leave piles of bodies in most FPS games. And I loved the story, especially the multiple endings.

Fallout 2 is my favorite CRPG of all time. I like it even more than Baldur's Gate II (though the voice actor for Jon Irenicus deserves some sort of award). I never played it without the latest patch installed, however, so I can't comment on any bugs. I've also not completed Planescape: Torment, every time I try to play that game, I get bored trying to get out of the mortuary.

[MuscaDomestica]

Originally posted by Enforcer5981
Fallout 2 is my favorite CRPG of all time. I like it even more than Baldur's Gate II (though the voice actor for Jon Irenicus deserves some sort of award). I never played it without the latest patch installed, however, so I can't comment on any bugs. I've also not completed Planescape: Torment, every time I try to play that game, I get bored trying to get out of the mortuary.

I know you have heard it before but it gets better after that... but you shouldn't completly believe the hype, you will enjoy the game much more.

[Professor Phobos]

Fallout 2: I loved it. Except I can't beat it- bug. Even though I patched, I ran into the unpatchable "Too Many Items" bug when I hit San Francisco.

Final Fantasy 10: I spent the entire game going "Die Tidus Die!" I hated Tidus with a burning intensity. Why would anyone like such a whiny, stupid protagonist?

Final Fantasy 10-2: I got my hopes up when I saw that the three hot female characters were certainly lesbians and there were many revealing cutscenes throughout the game. These hopes were dashed when I returned to reality, and then those hopes were soaked in gasoline and lit on fire when I found out the whole point of the game is to resurrect Tidus. I can't get behind that.

[Draco Light]

Originally posted by Professor Phobos
Final Fantasy 10-2: I got my hopes up when I saw that the three hot female characters were certainly lesbians and there were many revealing cutscenes throughout the game. These hopes were dashed when I returned to reality, and then those hopes were soaked in gasoline and lit on fire when I found out the whole point of the game is to resurrect Tidus. I can't get behind that.

Don't bury those hopes yet. There is a massage game later on...

[Fortinbras]

Originally posted by Enforcer5981
I've also not completed Planescape: Torment, every time I try to play that game, I get bored trying to get out of the mortuary.

Your the second or third person I've heard say that. Maybe I just got lucky, but I didn't think it was that hard. If you ever want me to say how, just ask.

[RedFox]

Originally posted by Fortinbras
Your the second or third person I've heard say that. Maybe I just got lucky, but I didn't think it was that hard. If you ever want me to say how, just ask.

I too got bored of the game though. For all the "intense roleplaying", it was just really... I don't know, lame.

Despite being in the City of Doors, you felt trapped. There weren't many places you could go, and most of them felt stupid. It even had the "rat warrens" thing that I've seen in WAY too many games. (Fallout 2, Neverwinter Nights, Baldur's Gate, etc.)

It just felt dreary, and the amnesia schtick is the oldest one in the book. What's up with trading broken flint knives and copper earrings for dirty bandages? Ugh.

You know what it reminded me of, in a really sick way? HoL. You can be the most baddest mofo to ever walk the planet, but you're king of the TRASH-HEAP. Go you.

[EvilBrennan]

10. Diablo II. I loved the first one to death and back. The second one was just...Bland. It was fun but didn't even live up to the first.

9. Alice. Jump jump jump. Anything else?

8. Metal of Honor:Allied Assualt. Snipers....oh god the snipers and the dogs...

7. Anarcy Online: Tried the beta and was horrified. Never try an MMORPG at launch.

I'll skip all the other ones and get to the one that everyone's demanding justification for.

The most disapointing game of all time.

Halo.

And here's why.
A few years back, Bungie annouced Halo. Later still, I found out about it. Halo was designed to be not a FPS, but a third person action game. You were meant to see the movements of the master chief in gorgeous detail. The world was a seamless world. You could walk from one side to the other if you so desired. There was going to be full co-op where you and your friends could take on the covenat together. My friend and I were planning to have a buggy race around the world. It was a ring, so it would work perfectly. They were going to have a flamethrower, and two different rocket launchers. A knife was also there. And useable energy swords. And I distincly recall them saying they were going to make the aliens playable in multiplayer. The early screenshots were amazing. Hell, I still have some of them for wallpapers. The movies they released were captivating beyond belief.
Essentially, it was the game to break all games. Them microsoft bought them out. And we got a good game. On the x-box. It wasn't Halo, but rather it's bastard ex-brother. Halo was dead. It's even deader on the PC. No co-op? Why don't you just pry the mouth of a dead game open and piss down it's throat guys?

And THAT'S why I hate Halo.

[Vegeta2300]

I don't think so. Zeldas 1-3 were all pretty different and I liked all three. OoT I loathe despite its Zeldaness. If it weren't a Zelda game I'd have sold it already, I think.
Mega-Necromancy just to call attention to this project, which you might like (or not):
Ocarina of Time 2D (http://www.monkeypro.net/oot2d/screenshots.html)

Regards,

Tobias

[Underdog]

Holy crap I do not like reading my old posts.

[Tomb's Grave]

One word for you:

Xenosaga.

I played about two, three hours of it--about 25-35 minutes if you skip the CGI, and most of that spent walking, or rather watching the protagonist scoot around that horrible walk cycle--and have no interest in playing any more. KOS-MOS: Cool. Everybody else could die in a fire, especially whomever programmed the computer that spat out that damn spaceship.

Although I'm thinking of giving it a second chance on the DS... if they cut the horrendous amount of CG.

[BuzzW]

I think all of my favorite games have been named by someone or other on this thread.

[Beri]

Game based off of movie or TV show = check

Cel Shaded Graphics = check

Bottom Feeder developers (TDK) = check


As you can see, before you even get to the game itself, Robotech: Battlecry met many of the requirements for a TOTALLY FUCKING SUCKY GAME. It never had a chance.

The GBA scrolling shooter is much more fun. It's still not an "A" list title, but it's entertaining.

Man, I liked Battlecry. Fighter-to-fighter combat is a blast. Not perfect, of course, but it was worth my $15 budget buy.

[Beri]

And here's why.
A few years back, Bungie annouced Halo. Later still, I found out about it. Halo was designed to be not a FPS, but a third person action game. You were meant to see the movements of the master chief in gorgeous detail. The world was a seamless world. You could walk from one side to the other if you so desired. There was going to be full co-op where you and your friends could take on the covenat together. My friend and I were planning to have a buggy race around the world. It was a ring, so it would work perfectly. They were going to have a flamethrower, and two different rocket launchers. A knife was also there. And useable energy swords. And I distincly recall them saying they were going to make the aliens playable in multiplayer. The early screenshots were amazing. Hell, I still have some of them for wallpapers. The movies they released were captivating beyond belief.
Essentially, it was the game to break all games. Them microsoft bought them out. And we got a good game. On the x-box. It wasn't Halo, but rather it's bastard ex-brother. Halo was dead. It's even deader on the PC. No co-op? Why don't you just pry the mouth of a dead game open and piss down it's throat guys?

And THAT'S why I hate Halo.

I remember an early article about Halo. I remember them mentioning the near-infinite world, and that you could fire a rocket and the smoke would remain until it was realistically dissipated by the wind. I was likewise disappointed that the end game was not an expansive squad-level war, but Forgettable Sci-Fi FPS #3,906.

[some guy]

Halo.

And here's why.
A few years back, Bungie annouced Halo. Later still, I found out about it. Halo was designed to be not a FPS, but a third person action game. You were meant to see the movements of the master chief in gorgeous detail. The world was a seamless world. You could walk from one side to the other if you so desired. There was going to be full co-op where you and your friends could take on the covenat together. My friend and I were planning to have a buggy race around the w