Post originally by Chuck at 2003-07-09 19:43:58
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With the whole Avatar Storm concept cutting Masters off from Earth (as well as the destruction of Doissetep), the Hermetic hierarchy is more or less fragmented. A lot of the politicking and trading of favors is still present, but now it's more along the lines of what you'd expect in Vampire - deals made between near-equals, with reputation only carrying you so far. It does seem as if WW tried to make the Order more accessible to the average gamer.

As for the Tremere book, it's definitely a similar flavor - after all, the Tremere came from the Order, and has a lot of the same hang-ups and quirks. That being said, I think the comparison was apt - the first Tremere Clanbook tried to get the mood and feel of the Tremere across, but it took the Revised version to really show you how to PLAY them. That's sort of the feel you get with the Hermes Tradbooks as well.