[grandmaster_cain]

Anyway, I much prefer the point-buy system of SR4 to the complex priority game of SR3. The one thing it needed was some guidelines on about how many points to spend per section (which it somewhat has, actually). Even still, I figured out a good range of points per section to tell my players after making just one character. And that first character took me about an hour and a half to make. My friends took about 2 hours to make characters, and a few spent an extra 2 hours because they wanted to fiddle with their options, but they were ready to play after the first 2 hours. That's actually pretty fast considering how long it takes us to get up on some games.

Honestly? I liked the MCCT a *lot* better. Much faster, and easier to explain to new players. YMMV, of course, but it takes me about ten minutes to put together a simple SR3 character, and about two hours for a simple SR4 one. Then again, I know the SR3 rules real well, and that helps cut down on the back-and-forth HB is complaining about.