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Old 05-13-2006, 12:52 AM
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Re: [RPG]: Shadowrun 4th Edition, reviewed by James Gillen (3/3)

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Originally Posted by Harlequins_Back
So, the layout issues and the character creation issues have been noted by another RPG.net reviewer, who gave the game a more positive review. As for serious Shadowrun fans, according to a poll on Dumpshock, over 70% of them require 2+ hours to create a character, and almost half require more than 3 hours. Over 25% require more than a full day. Character generation is decidedly a problem if even the most dedicated fans require more than a full day to create a character.
I'd be a little more observant before posting a link, dude. The question on the poll is how long it takes to make a character with complete backstory.

The general tone of the thread seems to be one of preferring to take time on the history, but to create the stats sits at around 45 minutes to about an hour from what the actual discussions mention. I feel that if it was a genuine issue with the rules, then it would have been commented on in that thread. Oddly enough - it isn't.

So that puts paid to your claim there.

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What about the world? Let's look at the review this thread is for:

You might find it better, you might find it worse-- YMMV. But I'd be hesitant about declaring it to be decidedly superior to SR3, let alone many of the other wonderful games out there-- I would say it is about equal to many games on the market. Like he said, I think it's "pretty good"-- not great.
Nup. Still not convinced by your arguments. Someone else claims it's bland, I claim it's concise and clear. I feel the fiction gets the style across sufficiently well, and the rules better match the world presented. I've got the other editions here and reading through them I find very little different.

So such subjective argumentation is pointless. A lot of people who used to like shadowrun have gotten back into the game due to SR4 - so that must mean that something is going right.

Oh, and SK - exactly what is your point? I was merely stating my experience - you already had said yours. I fail to see what you are trying to get at. I was pointing out why I personally am not swayed by your claims. Because they fail to match up to what I have experienced.

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