[The Fiendish Dr. Samsara]

Originally Posted by Lev Lafayette

I largely think of those games in a similar ilk; the enthusiasm is largely nostalgic - I'm not sure many would suggest that they are the 'cutting edge' of game design. Further, both these games - even more so than AD&D - had excellent support scenarios. The game systems themselves were perhaps not of the best quality.

But what you said, was the place of those games "is largely historical". And it isn't. Many people play them and like them (or even love them). Not being cutting edge isn't the same thing.

From what I remember of Swordbearer combat it became really involved with the use of minatures and movement. This game wasn't like that at all. Swordbearer wasn't a similarlity that came to mind.

Eh, no more so than AD&D: could use them , but didn't need to. Anyway, what I was saying is that combat doesn't sound like Swordbearer, but that a number of other elements do.