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Originally Posted by Seroster

But this review is like buying a box of cereal and saying it's good or bad based on the packaging, rather than, say, the actual content of the box.

Close. It’s like buying a box of cereal and then complaining that it takes two minutes to open the box every time you want to have some.

Granted, if I had a box of cereal like that, I’d rant about the packaging, too, and then I’d throw it out. But such rants make for poor rpg reviews if that’s all you discuss. As has been pointed out by numerous people, the review didn’t even touch on many of the new aspects of the game that most people would be interested in reading about. The reviewer might have some legitimate points about organization, but he spent so little time talking about anything else that the review didn’t even convince me that he had even read the book since anybody who merely flips through the book for an hour could make the same observations.

Originally Posted by capnzapp

I think MMO's has had to think about game design and the core principles of rpgs (at least fighting-centric ones like D&D) much more than p'n'p rpgs precisely because of the limitations of the computer. Couple this with the relatively enormous amounts of money involved (compared to p'n'p development) and it is no surprise p'n'p design would eventually be overtaken by MMO design, and thus find it natural to borrow from MMO design instead of the other way around, as it has always been before.

That’s probably the best point I’ve seen made about the 4E = MMO discussions.

Originally Posted by phookadude

After browsing through the book My main comments are that it isn't remotely anything like D&D and it is so designed to sell more books and minis and that's pretty much it.

That has been a very common accusation of every edition after the first.

Originally Posted by glass

This is how you respond to an accusation of pointless nitpicking? I think you have proved his point, really.

Welcome to you’re “DOOM!”