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Old 07-05-2008, 11:04 AM
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Re: [RPG]: Dungeons & Dragons 4th Edition Player's Handbook, reviewed by midnightq2 (

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Originally Posted by memorax300 View Post
What I don't understand is how so many gamers can be so surprised, shocked, flabbergasted etc.. to the changes. It's like I said in a previous post a segment of the D&D fanbase was in denial in some cases still on the changes in 4E. To those I really have absolutely no sympathy at all. We all knew what was coming. It's not like the said no changes to the rules and then did the opposite. Wotc warned us some chose to ignore the warning. Now because some hate the changes of 4E there trying to ruin the game for everybody.
Nobody is trying to ruin the game for everybody. Fair warning that this might not be what the potential buyer expected is not vitriol or unjust criticism, it is simply that: a warning. Somebody who claimed D&D4 was just trying to ruin D&D for everybody would be just as wrong as you are.

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D&D survived the change from 2E to 3E, it survived the chang from 3E to 3.5. It's going to survive the change from3.5 to 4E. Those that hate 4E can do their best to destroy 4E imo it's all for nothing.
Again with the 'trying to ruin the game for everybody'...

NOBODY IS TRYING TO DESTROY YOUR PRECIOUS GAME!!! I like 4th. I like the ideas it brings in, but I have to acknowledge the fact that it's not what I was playing a year ago. It doesn't feel like D&D in play.

Whether or not that's a good thing is something I leave up to others who give a damn. I prefer to play, and, as a fan, not to be given a bad name by the people who come online and not only criticize reviews that pan the game (especially when they justify it well), but talk about people 'trying to destroy 4E'. They're not, and you're not poor, put-upon heroes trying to hold the line against the hordes of evil.

Write your own review, come up with some valid criticisms, or batten down your hatch. And learn to capitalize and punctuate while you’re at it.

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Originally Posted by Gilbetron View Post
Yet another review that can be summed up as a bad case of sour grapes. It's exactly the same whining as when 3E hit the shelves, and it just comes down to "I don't like change!"
And the fanboy chorus grows...

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Originally Posted by Gilbetron View Post
So do us all a favor, and don't review the game unless you plan to review it, and not just nitpick it to death with what comes down to "I just don't like it!!!!"
If you want a positive review, write your own instead of just attacking unfavorable reviews. Sorry, you're not going to change them.

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Originally Posted by Gilbetron View Post
It's funny how the ones complaining are the ones that only have read it. Almost universally, those that play it like or love it.
Another fanboy chorus trademark. I've seen several people in my area (some of the only gamers, actually) who have remarked what a waste of money the books were, because they're not going to play them again. I've also seen a couple of secondhand copies in the local game store, and they weren't from those people. Guess not everybody who tried the new flavor liked it, huh?
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