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Originally Posted by Menchi
Spectral Knight - Wow. What can I say. It's easy to accuse someone as an egotist and on shaky ground when you wont state who you are and don't provide any evidence other than your word.
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There's always the tone of your posts to examine. Interesting that you've toned it down a bit for this one. Progress, I think.
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Originally Posted by Menchi
Interesting that you choose to respond to an older post rather than the later posts where I presented my evidence and reasoning, and to attack a side comment that I later agreed with people that anecdotal evidence didn't prove much and I stated that it was too early to tell if 4e was a hit or a failure.
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I've only got so much time to read in a day. Also, you haven't stopped asking for 'solid evidence'.
So far, the only easy-to-find solid evidence is sales figures, merely because those are tabulated and publicly displayed. Returns and resales don't get such a tabulation. As I said, these only point out that the game is selling well, not why it is selling well, or how many people are actually playing. It's clearly a hit
in sales. Whether it becomes a hit for other reasons does remain to be seen. The real pity, however, is that the only thing people will point at to call it a hit will be sales. Those don't tell the whole story.
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Originally Posted by Menchi
Also interesting the accusation of a crusader, when you have made a concerted effort to try an rag on as many people as possible who were pro 4e, and by taking their comments out of context.
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I included context where it was relevant, and where it wouldn't result in tl;dr. I also said that there was no concerted crusade to smear D&D4. People are smearing it, but there's no organized boycott, no smear
campaign, in short, no organized effort to demean or destroy the game. There is also no organized effort to praise it, but there are so many fanboys of this game, like any other with the D&D label, that it can seem like an organized effort merely through weight of numbers. There is no campaign on either side of the spite fence, though there's plenty of spite to go around, whether it's saying '4E SUX!' or '4E RULEZ, STFU TROLL!'
Asking people to stop frothing, accusing, and dramamongering is hardly 'ragging on' people who are contributing nothing good to the image of 4E fans. As I said, I have a vested interest in that image. Attacking negative reviews for no reason other than that they are negative, and mudslinging anyone who supports said reviews, sends a very clear message: Whether D&D4 is a good game or not, there will be hordes of fanboys around to harass you for having an opinion that doesn't agree with theirs. This is not a Good Thing (tm), especially not to legitimate fans who end up lumped in with them.
As for the anti-4E kind who contribute
nothing meaningful to the ongoing debate? They are in the minority of 4E detractors, and lampoon themselves merely by posting. They stick out without any help at all.