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Originally Posted by Lethe
Most of the reason I don't want to use minis is because, well, I've never used them. 
Stupid, maybe, and I admit it, but that's pretty much it.
Also, I don't feel like forking out the extra cash for them and I can't help but think that if I'm going to use miniatures for tactical combat I might as well just bust out Heroscape or another board game. |
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Originally Posted by nedjer
Sorry - should have read the rest of the thread first. My own objections to figures are the collection sets where you're sold a dozen units you don't need in the distant hope of getting the rare one you are after. I just keep away from those sets, as they are just the same exploitation as CCGs. Totally gave up on them after a couple of players simply started buying success.
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It's true that WotC's minis are a collectible money pit (and the minis could be better done, at that), and intentionally so. But there are some nicely done alternatives, especially in PDF format, that can save you a fair bit of money. Fiery Dragon makes some nice ones, and if you need more you can just print 'em right up. Just make 'em heavy enough that they don't get blown all over creation when your players wave things around and talk over the mat (if you've nothing else, a penny taped to the flipside works just fine). Also, there are some nice Flipmats for purchase from Paizo for $13.00, a good playing surface for the gamer on the go. Special thanks to Tylermo and Tori Bergquist for those tips.
While I'm at it, this game can be a
lot more interesting and varied than
Heroquest (ah, the fond memories I have of that worthy late-80's hit), for obvious reasons. But the nifty minis that came with it came in handy when I ran my first D&D4 game. It's surprising how well those have held up over the years.
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Originally Posted by mrswing
Last week we had a critical review of 4e (a disillusioned lover, in fact) and the boards were alive with the sound of flaming. Now we have an unabashed declaration of love (nothing wrong with 4e at all except that not everything is available yet) and there's not a whisper of dissent.
Strange.
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Not really. In my experience, fanboys tend to hold on to their tendency to attack negative reviews, however well-written, long past any time that it might have been meaningful. By now, with less of an emotional investment in the game than their detractors (which may account for the quality of some negative reviews), most of the critics have moved on to better uses of their time.
Having missed the last review, I can't judge it on its merits, but at this point, sales aren't going to be affected much by reviews. The life of the game is pretty well assured. Not everyone buying is playing, but there are so many people buying that there's no shortage of people to play with, so that concern's moot, too. At this point, the flaming's more purposeless than ever, but that in no way makes me thing it'll stop. Very persistent, fanboys are.