[Blue Seraph]

I haven't read S&S, so I can't comment on that. I don't see anything inconsistent or obscuring in Edwards' essays on GNS; maybe if you point out a specific example it might be worth discussing.

But even by your definitions (Venger's definitions?) VTM/R is still a simulationist game. It doesn't really focus on character or story, and the end product of play is really no different than most mainstream RPG's on the market. Which is fine by me, since it's the style of gaming I prefer.