Re: Joss Whedon's bid for the TERMINATOR franchise.
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Originally Posted by Argent
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I double hate it, because while I'm a mild Whedon fan. I am a rabid Wil Wheaton Fan.
If you dis (Post TNG) Wheaton I will cut you over the internet with my mind.
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Re: Joss Whedon's bid for the TERMINATOR franchise.
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Originally Posted by Whizbang Dustyboots
I would love to see him rationalize Alien Resurrection.
Well, that was a bit of a case in point, actually. Jean-Pierre Jeunet directed it - yeah, the guy who did City of Lost Children and Amelie. Whedon accused the director of being "too literal" with his direction, and ruining the cinematic potential of the script. Struck me as a bit petty.
Much to my dismay, of course, since I actually quite enjoyed it.
Which makes me obnoxious, turd-eating, and narrow-minded! Well, "amoung" that.
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Re: Joss Whedon's bid for the TERMINATOR franchise.
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Originally Posted by IMSabbel
And i realize from those threads the same thing that cracked.com also realized:
Joss Wheaton fans are amoung the most obnoixious and narrow-minded group of the internet. All praise to God Joss, who can do no wrong (its clearly the fault of other people) and whose turds taste like chocolate.
Easy there, Francis. Please don't unleash a group attack on people who belong to this board and who are Whedon fans, because the next time, I'm going to suspend you.
Re: Joss Whedon's bid for the TERMINATOR franchise.
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Originally Posted by Calculon
Well, that was a bit of a case in point, actually. Jean-Pierre Jeunet directed it - yeah, the guy who did City of Lost Children and Amelie. Whedon accused the director of being "too literal" with his direction, and ruining the cinematic potential of the script. Struck me as a bit petty.
That's the first time I've heard of a writer complaining that a director hewed to the written word too closely.
While I think Joss might be able to do some interesting things with the Terminator franchise -- he does understand the concept of the Other in modern day America -- he really didn't seem to have a good handle on the Aliens universe. The weapons up the sleeve silliness really exemplified that for me.
Re: Joss Whedon's bid for the TERMINATOR franchise.
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Originally Posted by Whizbang Dustyboots
I would love to see him rationalize Alien Resurrection.
It's everyone else's fault;
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"It wasn't a question of doing everything differently, although they changed the ending; it was mostly a matter of doing everything wrong. They said the lines...mostly...but they said them all wrong. And they cast it wrong. And they designed it wrong. And they scored it wrong. They did everything wrong that they could possibly do. There's actually a fascinating lesson in filmmaking, because everything that they did reflects back to the script or looks like something from the script, and people assume that, if I hated it, then they’d changed the script...but it wasn’t so much that they’d changed the script; it’s that they just executed it in such a ghastly fashion as to render it almost unwatchable."[25]
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Re: Joss Whedon's bid for the TERMINATOR franchise.
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Originally Posted by dogstar
(I know that lots of you out their love T2, but I'm sorry to say its an inferior rerun of the far superior first thats exciting and looks good). T2 only has nostalgia because T3 was even worse - No one really can look at T2 and say it was anywhere comperable to the first movie (where as Aliens and Alien, different movies both excellent).
Seriously, you are the first person I've ever heard of who thought the first film was far superior. I think I know one guy who thought the first two films were comparably good, but the consensus both online and off that I've known personally is nigh-unanimous that T2 is the best in the series. And, the nostalgia reference confuses me- surely if we were basing our like for T2 on nostalgia, well... T1 is older, wouldn't it have MORE nostalgia draw?
Oh, and I introduced about three people to Terminator in general (they'd never seen any of the movies until the last year) and they also enjoyed T2 better- though we did have a lot of laughs about how delightfully 80's the first movie was.
I'm pleased you have a film preference, but it blows my mind that you find it inconceivable that a lot of people like T2 better. This might make a good poll, perhaps.
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