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Old 11-06-2009, 10:06 AM
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The good scary robot is why I liked T-2 less than the first one. Having a robot on their side made the situation seem far less dire, and thus less scary.

The T-1000 itself also wasn't scary. It was too obviously magical. The T-800 was just realistic enough for a part of my brain to go "It could happen!" which is necessary for me to be scared at something. (Of course, the fact that I was five years old when I first saw T-1 probably helped)
Well, yes. T1 is a horror movie. T2 is an action movie. I feel that T2 was at least as good an action movie as T1 was a horror movie. Though the T-1000 was much scarier to me than an Arnold-covered metal skeleton. Shapeshifting, truly indestructible assassin? That's creepy. Whereas I was strategizing ways to kill the T-800 from the moment I heard the description of him. I was actually thinking it would take a lot more than a hydraulic press, too; I threw out crushing as soon as I thought of it assuming his hyper-whatever-metal would make it pointless. It's still a very well done movie, but it just wasn't that scary to me. It might also have been that a lot of stuff in it had been filtered into pop culture by the time I'd seen it and thus neutered; I played the arcade game far before I saw the movie, and Ahnold was already a joke at that point.
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Old 11-06-2009, 10:08 AM
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Re: Joss Whedon's bid for the TERMINATOR franchise.

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I thought you had learned about sex from the Terminator ?
The sex scene in Terminator one yeah.

I asked my dad what they were doing.
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The sex scene in Terminator one yeah.

I asked my dad what they were doing.
That's sweet
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Re: Joss Whedon's bid for the TERMINATOR franchise.

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In the version of the film I saw, we see the T-1000 punch the cop in the stomach and then immediately take his gun.
I may have forgotten that, or maybe it's different in different cuts of the film.

In any case, the point is that you don't see that the T-1000 can imitate other people until "Your foster parents are dead". It's part of the film's misdirect that Robert Patrick comes across as very friendly, actually - he's very polite with the foster parents when he comes to see them, asks for a picture, shows it to the two young girls.

He's acting like a cop, and you're asked, I think, to believe that this is a Resistance fighter trying a little more sophisticated approach than Kyle Reese's in the original - especially compared to Arnie's establishing scenes, where he takes out the bikers just like he attacked the gang douchebags in the original.

The first hint that Robert Patrick may not be an awesome guy is when he bats John's jerkoff redhead friend aside as he starts to chase John into the service corridors of the mall.
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