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Old 02-26-2002, 08:48 AM
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Unhappy No practice = crappy art!

Well, I finally dared to pick up a pencil again after Chriss2d's encouraging words...

...and boy, did I ever find out Storn is right. Practice, practice, practice. And I haven't practiced in a while.
I more or less gave up on this as I got stuck seeing too many things wrong with it. For a moment I even thought of just giving up on drawing...
...but that would be kidding myself. I'll probably always want to do something with art. Now I just have to resign myself to the fact that I'd better start drawing again on a regular basis, or risk losing every bit of the touch I might have had (once).

Anyway, I'll show you guys what I'm bitching about...and then head off to try to get back that feeling of 'I must draw!' I had when I was younger.

Cheers,
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Old 02-26-2002, 09:08 AM
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What are you kvetching about?
Anatomy looks pretty good to my untrained eye, except maybe around from the knees down. Something about the right arm is bugging me but I can't put my finger on it. Nice facial expression.
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Old 02-26-2002, 09:12 AM
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Congrats on choosing another really difficult pose
That hand position, on a rifle or crossbow, is one of the most difficult i tackle on a regular basis.

But the forefinger usually is going down the length of the underside of the stock. Hold a stick, pretend its a crossbow, see for yourself.

And then the fingers do a curling, which is a bitch, because they are moving in direct opposition to the vanishing pt of the stock of the weapon.

the right elbow has to come out towards the camera. The posture is awfully up and down...usually, the spine is going to be either going back a bit, or curling toward the knee and hunching. But rarely up and down.

You did really well on the legs. A kneeling leg going back in space is another really hard thing to pull off and you did it.
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Old 02-26-2002, 09:31 AM
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Apology

Thank you Misguided and Storn for your comments. I guess I overreacted...a lot.

I just want to apologise for the whining in my post. Re-reading it I don't know what got over me to make me post something so melodramatic.

Sorry about that.

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Old 02-26-2002, 10:00 AM
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If you didn't feel like that you wouldn't get the satisfaction when it goes well.
It's good to care that much about what you're doing.
I give up art about three times a day.

A bit of melodrama does you good, occasionally!

Stick with it, there's potential here.

How big is the original?

I was always taught to draw on a really large scale. I don't always do so now, but its the best way to learn IMO.
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Old 02-26-2002, 10:10 AM
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This is it.

It's 1:1 scale with what you see on your monitor. I know I should start larger, but I didn't want to go all-out on my first attempt at handling a pencil again.

And I guess you're right Jon. Artists are supposed to be temperamental!
(or atleast it's an easy excuse right now )

Thanks,

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Old 02-26-2002, 11:19 AM
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looks fine to me Bear !!

My anatomy sucks so I can appreciate what a difficult sketch it would be for me to do..great pose aswell..I think you did a god job..

Practice Practice Practice !!!!
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Old 02-26-2002, 12:51 PM
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It's good, what are you complaining about?
The thing that Lewis saw was the right shoulder (his right)should come out more with the bicep joining the deltoid(?) higher up and the pectoral should be outlined a bit more.
As for the size I am very guilty of drawing on a tiny scale. I know it's a bad habit but I just can't help it.
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Old 02-26-2002, 01:19 PM
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Talking A big thank you

Noel, John, thanks a lot, I really appreciate it. I guess I really overreacted.
But atleast it got me to be less afraid of the pencil to hear you guys, all of you, give comments and very helpful critiques (criticisms? damn my foggy dutch mind...).

So I picked up my pencil again and I think that this time, I regained that sense of 'drawing is fun!' rather than 'this needs to look better!' and to my own surprise...it was immediately easier!

I'm probably breaking all the rules of how to prepare a good piece of art, but I don't care just now...I'm having fun again!

So for the curious, I'm posting the first few lines of my return to drawing with a smile. It doesn't warrant a new thread yet by far, but I guess I can abuse this one a little longer.

Thanks again,

Asbjørn

PS: Jon, you were very right. I started this at about 4 times the size of the previous drawing.
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Old 02-27-2002, 01:38 AM
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Hey, this is looking very good, Asbjorn. Very good expression. Where do you go from here on this one? Make sure you try and include a good portion of the menace, in this case the tentacle, in the finished piece, then the scream will make more sense. And always make sure you include hands in the finished drawing or painting. It's never complete without hands. I hope this helps. Please keep us posted as to your progress.

Thanks,
Eric

Editted for obvious grammatical blunders, thanks Jon

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