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Old 08-31-2004, 09:52 AM
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Colombians are Violent Dwarves!

The following excerpts are taken from the Babylon Five Earthforce Fact Book, by Mongoose Publishing. Admittedly, these were forwarded to me by someone. I don't actually own the book myself.

Germans
Germans tend to be direct and to the point about everything. Their demeanour, like their language itself, is perceived as gruff and harsh. Perhaps not surprisingly, they can also be extremely passionate in their beliefs and actions. Their skills in battle and industry are also a matter of great personal pride. A German will readily fight for what he believes in, or to defend himself against an insult, real or imagined. They make excellent allies and implacable enemies.

Names: Guenther, Adolf, Wilhelm, Brunhilde, Elsa, Gretchen.

Canadians
Canadians are generally quiet people who appreciate solitude. They do not mind cold weather, and in many cases prefer it. Canadians tend to be hardy and can swim, hike, and hunt for extended periods of time. They speak English with a noticeable French accent and a few of their own special pronunciations (ow sounds as oo for example). Canadians drink more beer per capita than any other nation-state on Earth.

Names: Denise, Harriet, Jacqueline, Darcy, Louis, Jean-Paul

French
Where the Spanish are open-minded and tolerant, the French are very much the opposite. They tend to see their way as the best and everyone else’s as unimportant or just plain wrong. They rarely admit they are mistaken about anything, and even when faced with undeniable proof that they made an error, their response is to shrug it off and change the subject. Frenchmen are often seen as arrogant and self absorbed, although frequently this is simply a misinterpretation of their own vanity. When he puts his mind to it, a Frenchman can be just as friendly and outgoing as the next human, if not more so.

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Is this what happens when you expect a writer to produce 80-90,000 words a month for $18,000 a year? TV stereotypes strung together? The writer has no time for research, and it shows.

For even more, see below in this thread...

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Old 08-31-2004, 09:55 AM
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Re: Come, Darcy! Let us drink beer and talk a long hike in the cold snow!

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Is this what happens when you expect a writer to produce 80-90,000 words a month for $18,000 a year? TV stereotypes strung together? The writer has no time for research, and it shows.
Bah. Clearly, you have no genre appreciation. B5 is set in the future, when Earth is under the rule of a monolithic fascist regime. All cultural identities have been erased to eliminate troublesome nationalism.

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Old 08-31-2004, 10:13 AM
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Re: Come, Darcy! Let us drink beer and take a long hike in the cold snow!

wait....

The Spanish are openminded and tolerant!?!
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Old 08-31-2004, 10:29 AM
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Re: Come, Darcy! Let us drink beer and take a long hike in the cold snow!

Clearly, this book has been written for the many Narn and Centauri players of Babylon 5. (Minbari don't play RPGs, and the Drazi prefer 40K.)
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Re: Come, Darcy! Let us drink beer and take a long hike in the cold snow!

I'm disappointed that they don't provide stat modifiers for different nationalities. Canadians obviously get a Constitution bonus, and the Germans -- those twinks -- get extra combat dice. I wonder what the stereotype for North Americans is?
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Old 08-31-2004, 10:42 AM
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Re: Come, Darcy! Let us drink beer and take a long hike in the cold snow!

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Is this what happens when you expect a writer to produce 80-90,000 words a month for $18,000 a year? TV stereotypes strung together? The writer has no time for research, and it shows.
Assuming it's legit, I'm impressed. They've managed to capture characterization with the same stunning level of depth Straczynski himself writes with. Hopefully, they'll also include a guide to speaking in an over-explanatory fashion.
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Re: Come, Darcy! Let us drink beer and take a long hike in the cold snow!

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I'm disappointed that they don't provide stat modifiers for different nationalities. Canadians obviously get a Constitution bonus, and the Germans -- those twinks -- get extra combat dice. I wonder what the stereotype for North Americans is?
Silly, Americans (rather than North Americans) are the baseline and just get extra feats.

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Old 08-31-2004, 11:56 AM
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Re: Come, Darcy! Let us drink beer and talk a long hike in the cold snow!

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Bah. Clearly, you have no genre appreciation. B5 is set in the future, when Earth is under the rule of a monolithic fascist regime. All cultural identities have been erased to eliminate troublesome nationalism.

this blatant sarcasm brought to you by - C.
Hey, these nationalities got off easy.

The blurb on Colombians:

Colombians
Colombians like mining and spelunking and are accustomed to underground settings. Because of the constant threat from the drug cartels, Colombians live in one of the most dangerous countries on Earth, and are accustomed to violence. A typical Colombian considers force as the solution to a problem before a more peaceful solution. Associating with an impulsive Colombian is a dangerous proposition!

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Apparently, Colombians are Dwarves.

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Re: Come, Darcy! Let us drink beer and take a long hike in the cold snow!

Are you sure this is what's written in the book?
Dare I ask how australians are described?

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They tend to see their way as the best and everyone else’s as unimportant or just plain wrong. They rarely admit they are mistaken about anything, and even when faced with undeniable proof that they made an error, their response is to shrug it off and change the subject.
When was this written? It's amazingly ironic if put in a recent political context(assuming the writer is an american with certain political afiliations).

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Assuming it's legit, I'm impressed. They've managed to capture characterization with the same stunning level of depth Straczynski himself writes with. Hopefully, they'll also include a guide to speaking in an over-explanatory fashion.
Whenever I see somebody on the internet trying to diss JMS's skills as a writer, I can't help but think 'bitchy star trek fan'.

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Re: Come, Darcy! Let us drink beer and take a long hike in the cold snow!

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Are you sure this is what's written in the book?
Dare I ask how australians are described?


When was this written? It's amazingly ironic if put in a recent political context(assuming the writer is an american with certain political afiliations).

Fairly certain, yes. At least, the person who sent me the quotes is a big B5 fan, owns the book, and has no reason to lie to me. I've not yet seen a copy myself.

Australians are probably described as "Criminals named Bruce who like beer, and shrimp on the barby."
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