Post originally by Gary Miles at 2004-05-26 06:53:46
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Sorry, Shannon, but I just have to correct you. I think when you mentioned Tom Tommorow, I believe you were thinking of Tom Strong (my favorite of the ABC Comics lineup).
Post originally by Dan Davenport at 2004-05-26 08:58:17
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Excellent review, Shannon. So <u>that's</u> how they explained Supreme's 180-degree changeover... It still seems so weird, though -- taking a total deconstructionist hero and making him an archetypal REconstructionist hero. I mean, why not just start with a new character?
Post originally by Emprint at 2004-05-26 10:06:57
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<<It still seems so weird, though -- taking a total deconstructionist hero and making him an archetypal REconstructionist hero. I mean, why not just start with a new character?>>
I don't know, but it's worth considering that Watchmen started life as a deconstruction of the Charlton superheroes.
Moore's abruptly halted later work in this universe was good, too- the new Youngblood was quite entertaining, and the big crossover I'm blanking on the name of was cool, too.
Supreme remains one of my favorite pieces of comic book work ever- I like it as well as Watchmen, quite frankly.
Post originally by Shannon Appelcline at 2004-05-26 12:25:05
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<i>I mean, why not just start with a new character?</i>
I'd guess Liefeld came up to Moore at a convention and said, "Hey, I'm breaking away from Image. Want to redesign my whole universe?" and Moore said, "Well, OK, if that's what you really want ..."
I'm sure both Moore & Liefled saw benefits out of the alliance. Moore got a really nice customer basis for his new reconstructionism, without having to go to either Marvel or DC, both of which he was feuding with at the time. Meanwhile, Liefeld got people to read his comics because, for the first time ever, he had an actual writer on board. (The only Supremes in my collection are those Alan Moore issues, v1 #41- v2 #6. I'm sure I'm not the only one for which that's true.)
Post originally by Shannon Appelcline at 2004-05-26 12:29:11
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<i>Supreme remains one of my favorite pieces of comic book work ever- I like it as well as Watchmen, quite frankly.</i>
I agree these first 12 issues were very good, but I thought his last 10 were solely average. They didn't have the strong focus and structure of the original run (hurt, no doubt, by the fact that they were published, and thus probably written, over a couple year span, with a couple of almost one-year gaps between issues).
The crossover, by-the-by, was Judgement Day, which is also out in trade paperback. Maybe the same folks will TPB all those random issues too; I'd love it, as they're the only ones of the set I haven't read before.
Post originally by Davies at 2004-05-26 14:31:12
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<i>I'd guess Liefeld came up to Moore at a convention and said, "Hey, I'm breaking away from Image. Want to redesign my whole universe?" and Moore said, "Well, OK, if that's what you really want ..."</i>
Probably, except that they probably met in the green room, with Moore watching in mild awe and horror as Liefeld took several keys of coke up his nose and made all kinds of "suggestions" which Moore subsequently ignored.
Post originally by Jason Carpenter at 2004-05-26 21:01:42
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Awesome Entertainment did not go belly up because of poor accounting but because the primary source of fund, Jon Peters I believe, withdrew from Awesome Entertainment and took his money with him because he was expecting sales in the millions, which NO ONE had at the time. From there Rob ran the company out of pocket and even though he is a millionaire, it takes more than millions to run a successful comic book company, just ask Mark Allessi. For a late 90s company Awesome Ent. did quite well, better than the current healthier industry company Crossgen.
Awesome Ent. was hitting a stride when Peters withdrew his support but he also tried very hard to take the characters from ROb Liefeld, characters Rob created. Eventually Rob won the case but the damage was done.
It is speculation like yours that creates the myths that surround people like Rob and John Byrne.
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