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Old 01-14-2005, 01:00 AM
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[RPG]: Babylon 5 Role-playing Game and Factbook, reviewed by Tim Kirk (4/4)

http://www.rpg.net/reviews/archive/10/10982.phtml

Tim Kirk's Summary:

A solid product for the B5 license, sadly diminished slightly by the need for D&D 3E PHB.


Go to the full review for more information.
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Old 01-14-2005, 04:39 PM
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Still wondering why it's not d20 Future

Post originally by tetsujin28 at 2005-01-14 15:39:54
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or at least d20M.
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Old 01-14-2005, 05:03 PM
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Bad planning, probably

Post originally by Manga Boogie Man at 2005-01-14 16:03:53
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I don't know enough about d20 Future to say anything, but d20 Modern I have played.

This wouldn't be the first d20-type setting book that wasn't assigned to the proper book. I know some of the early, pre-d20 Modern stuff used D&D3E, since it was the only d20 system book out at the time, but once d20 Modern came out there was no excuse for staying with that idea. Sure, d20 Modern's classes are pretty badly assembled overall, but since these settings use their own classes most of the time, that usually doesn't matter. There's also the matter of updating the feat system, but it's not impossible to rewrite existing feats to better suit a game world (something a few publishers would probably benefit from learning. I mean, they already add new feats, so what's so different about rewriting a feat or two, or dropping a few as redundant?).

Note that I like D&D3E and 3.5 no better, but d20 Modern had a lot of promise that was partially wasted by shaky character class construction, among other things. Only one really capable combat character class when they needed at least two, with the rest stuck as second- and third-line combatants, and not enough skill points all around. Blizzards of the Cost should have gotten their minds out of the dungeon when writing this one. Oh, the days when d20 anything seemed to have limitless potential were grand. Then people began to realize that the new system still had a lot of the old system's limitations. A big step forward, but not big enough. And a heavy blow for a purchaser of more than one $25-40 book.

Sometimes the authors of a game state that they want a certain system for the game. This was the case for "The Red Star Campaign Setting," when the comic book producers stated that they specifically wanted to use d20 Modern. It's probably happened to other books, too.
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Old 01-14-2005, 05:48 PM
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RE: Still wondering why it's not d20 Future

Post originally by Mikey Boy at 2005-01-14 16:48:38
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Probably because there are - literally - hundreds of times more people who own the D&D PHB than own D20 Future/Modern. Given that the only reason a company would go for the D20 licence is to get the attention of people who already own "the right rulebook", it makes perfect business sense to base it on the most popular D20 rulebook - because that way, you maximise the number of people who might be influenced by the fact that they already own the "main" rulebook.

Mike
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Old 01-15-2005, 12:49 AM
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RE: Still wondering why it's not d20 Future

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Maybe because it was published over a year *before* d20 Future?
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Old 01-15-2005, 05:42 AM
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RE: Still wondering why it's not d20 Future

Post originally by SteelCaress at 2005-01-15 04:42:59
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Still wondering why they used d20 at all, other than for sales purposes. I have played many permutations of d20, and without severe mangling I don't think it's really much good at simulating anything, other than D&D, which I turned away from after my cynicism at the Hasbro/WotC machine took over. "Let's kill the old line and start a new one to make money (3.5)! Let's revise the SRD so that entire product lines must pay us money or now die! (anything with beholders as monsters)"

There's lots better rule systems out there to try and publish under. Lots of 'em will let you be completely faithful to the source material.
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Old 01-15-2005, 07:06 AM
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RE: Possibilities

Post originally by Kounga the Stressed Kangaroo at 2005-01-15 06:06:58
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1-More people use D&D than D20 Modern
2-D20 Future wasn't out yet
3-D20 Future requires D20 Modern ALSO, making it more expensive
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Old 01-15-2005, 07:12 AM
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RE: Possibilities

Post originally by Tom Zunder at 2005-01-15 06:12:39
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It would have been so nice as a simple Traveller clone. More room for setting and less shoehorning. Sadly I will never buy this despite being a big B5 fanboy.

Those who know me will know what I mean by 'big' fanboy - <grin>

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Old 01-15-2005, 09:26 AM
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RE: Still wondering why it's not d20 Future

Post originally by Darrin Kelley at 2005-01-15 08:26:52
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The B5 RPG is a 1st generation D20 game. It came out before D20 Modern.

I have been following the line since the beginning.
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Old 01-15-2005, 10:07 AM
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RE: Still wondering why it's not d20 Future

Post originally by Tim Kirk at 2005-01-15 09:07:39
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Yeah pretty much though the book is great--honestly I am the least likely to tell people to buy a D20 book for any reason but honestly the campaign info saved the book from being a wash--you may want read it sometime (borrow a copy) and see what ideas it gives you for non-d20 system playing
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