Bulldogs! (a d20 based SF game) calls itself \"A New Breed of Sci-Fi\", but it reminded me of an old classic - Star Frontiers. As a Star Frontiers fanatic, I don't say that lightly, either, it's got the same feel to it, only Bulldogs! actually makes sense and is wonderfully done.
Post originally by dug at 2005-01-31 09:11:08
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I just have to chime in and say I too like this game an awful lot. I played in a demo of Bulldogs! at GenCon last year and it was easily the best game I was in. It also reminded me of Star Frontiers, which was also a good thing.
Post originally by grubman at 2005-02-01 04:53:49
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I read the old PDF. It didn't make me feel all SF nostolgic. I know a lot of people played SF differently, so that may be the reason. Or, perhaps the print book has some changes?
Post originally by paulskemp at 2005-02-01 09:21:07
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Everything I've read puts the average temperature of outer space at about 2.7 degrees Kelvin, which is about 270 degrees Farenheit below zero. That qualifies as cold in my book.
Post originally by Brennan Taylor at 2005-02-01 09:31:49
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Mine too.
I think Jeremy's point is that although space is exceptionally cold, it is also a vacuum. Since there is no medium to conduct heat (like air or water do), an object in space cools much more slowly than one in an atmosphere or in liquid, despite the temperature. This has been pointed out to me, and I also must admit I am not much of a physical scientist. I would merely advise GMs to apply as little or as much science as they want in their own game.
Of course, after publishing the game a high school science teacher joined my group, and I have had to be much more rigorous with my explanations ever since.
Post originally by Chirikh at 2005-02-01 11:42:31
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Yeah, but that's the average between the galaxies, which is -most- of the universe. It's 'warmer' near stars. The point, though, is that space is a -vacuum- and you don't lose heat except by radiating, which is pretty low efficiency. The big problem is that you have massive evaporation/boiling off of body fluids in the vacuum which sucks heat out of the victim in the process of freeze-drying them. This process can actually cool the victim -below- the ambient local vacuum temperature in the early stages, until all the volatiles have, umm, volatized.
Post originally by William A. Peterson at 2005-02-02 10:21:31
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While it sounds like it might be a pretty good game (then again, T20 and Dragonstar *sounded like* they might be pretty good games!), I really don't see anything here that makes it much like Star Frontier...
Yeah, SF had some very alien aliens, but it concentrated on a small number of them, and provided lots of detail (as did Alternity's Star Drive setting)...
This *seems* to take a more generic approach, but I might be misreading you.
Also, you seem to *really* hate T20! Now, I have my problems with that particular product (to say the least!), but I don't hold it in such lothsome contempt as you do...
Just courious, what was it (briefly) that set you off on that game?
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