[5e] Which Wizard school gets the rawest deal?

RadioKen

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Another reason Necromancy gets a raw deal is that a bunch of effects which, by all rights, SHOULD be necromancy get pulled into other schools. Presumably because they aren't 'raise skeleton army'.

I mean really. Detect Undead? Divination. Undead Anatomy? Transmutation. Blood Biography? Divination again. You get the idea. All the good necromantic effects get yoinked.

Of course there are some good uses for having Necromancy in your repetoire. Deathwine or Death Knell are great ways to boost your caster level in flavorful ways. And there is something ineffably satisfying in the campaign finale of being able to say 'Quickened Enervate, Maximized Enervate' aimed at the boss.
Are those even things in 5e?
 

vitruvian

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Another reason Necromancy gets a raw deal is that a bunch of effects which, by all rights, SHOULD be necromancy get pulled into other schools. Presumably because they aren't 'raise skeleton army'.

I mean really. Detect Undead? Divination. Undead Anatomy? Transmutation. Blood Biography? Divination again. You get the idea. All the good necromantic effects get yoinked.

Of course there are some good uses for having Necromancy in your repetoire. Deathwine or Death Knell are great ways to boost your caster level in flavorful ways. And there is something ineffably satisfying in the campaign finale of being able to say 'Quickened Enervate, Maximized Enervate' aimed at the boss.
And there's no reason the Necromancer can't use all such spells. It's not like specialists are restricted to spells of one school, they just have advantage on learning them and other ancillary features.
 

DarkStarling

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And there's no reason the Necromancer can't use all such spells. It's not like specialists are restricted to spells of one school, they just have advantage on learning them and other ancillary features.
They don’t get any associated bonuses for specializing in a school for using them though. And besides their not being in the school to which they obviously belong is ridiculous.
 

RadioKen

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They don’t get any associated bonuses for specializing in a school for using them though. And besides their not being in the school to which they obviously belong is ridiculous.
It's not all that obvious. All the other detection spells are divinations, because "detecting." Why should Detect Undead be an exception?

What the game ought to do is put spells that can plausibly fall under more than one school into all of the schools they can plausibly belong to.
 

Borogove

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The platonic 5e example of a spell that's in the wrong school is wall of stone, which despite potentially creating a permanent barrier is somehow still evocation.
 
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