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Are you loyal to humanity?

Lukas Sjöström

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The Dragon Prince got me thinking: do you in general find that you tend to sympathise with humanity in stories where it's pitched against other beings? Is it a selling point for you if humans are portrayed as being more sympathetic than other creatures? I'm finding myself comparing some stuff to Moorcock's Erekosë stories, where
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the main character gets summoned to be the legendary champion of humanity against the elf-like Eldren, but in the end decides that it's better to betray humanity and join forces with the Eldren.


How would similar plot points sit with you?
 

Rainfall

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Given that most of the time "elves" and the like tend to be humans with pointy ears or some magical abilities anyway... ;)

I'm a humanist, but that doesn't mean I'm particularly loyal to humanity. It really depends on what flavor of humanity I get. Humans in Avatar are shown in their more destructive light, as nature-destroying industrial colonialists. Those I tend to side against.

But in Gurren-Lagann, a work of fiction is all about human spirit and inventiveness triumphing against a force of Stasis ruling the literal universe? HELL YEAH, GO US!
 

Michael K

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Nope. I have no allegiance to any species, and certainly no loyalty to humanity.
 

Morty

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I'm generally biased towards "unpowered" folk. Those without magic, or less of it. Their viewpoints tend to be ignored or painted in negative light quite often. Sometimes that means humans, sometimes not.
 

Chaotic Leppy Tracy

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I don’t like humans, but I also don’t particularly like the alternatives presented. Typically, the lifeforms that appear as alternatives earn my distaste to the same extent humans do. I like to think that I am on the side of progress and the world at large?

I definitely would side with the Incubators over magical girls, and I would probably support Mavericks over everyone else early on, before it’s revealed to be a virus- I try to go towards the most potential, I feel?

Maybe the only time I’ve cared enough in a conflict where humans are supposed to be in the wrong against some sort of ~superior~ life form was with the Super-Happies, but also I admit to not consuming all that much media. I guess if you count the distant past in Undertale that counts?


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And if mewmans count as humans for story purposes (as opposed to merely being so biologically- mewmans have spent several hundred years in isolation from most of humanity, having lost all knowledge of their history pre-Mewni, and have lived under such high amounts of magical radiation that they’ve essentially become a subspecies) then I guess there’s that too, but I don’t consider them as such, and I don’t think they really consider themselves human, either


I’ve only seen season 1 of The Dragon Prince so far, but the whole “complete displacement of humanity” has not endeared me to them.
 

Ikselam

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I mean I think being human is generally a good thing for human beings to aspire to, but it's not like I'm automatically ride-or-die for the species in every Cowboys and Indians IN SPAAAAACE scenario.

How would similar plot points sit with you?
They usually come across as kind of weak, to be perfectly honest. Like, I already know racism is wrong, you're not going trick me by saying, "but is it still racist when it's against ELVES?!?"
 
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ESkemp

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It feels vaguely like asking if you're nationalist but for your species, honestly. "My Species, Right or Wrong", y'know?
 
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