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Chaining multiple Magic Mouths onto the same object

Dr. Worm

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Let's say a wizard wants to leave a long monologue using Magic Mouth. Since there's a 25 word limit, anything wrong with casting Magic Mouth multiple times on the same object, each one containing 25 or less words of his dreadfully long speech, and each one triggered to begin when the one before it ends? The first part of the message would of course be triggered off something else.
 

secondbest

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For 5e the trigger for magic mouth is very broad with the condition that must be audible or visible, so I'd say yes. If it's an NPC wizard you can just have an extended magic mouth. It's a ritual or something, you really don't need PC magic to explain it.
 

Stattick

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PCs walk into the room. A dozen magic mouths appear across the walls and ceiling. The doors seal behind the PCs, and then the magic mouths start singing acapella. Oh, and the voices are clearly goblins.

 

AlwaysToast

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I second that an NPC can have a version of Magic Mouth without a word limit. The spells for PCs do not have to be all the spells in the world. You can totally do this without complications if you want to.

If you want to strictly follow the exact rules for Magic Mouth for some reason (like humor): Yes you can do that. But the last word that triggers the next magic mouth needs to be unique within all the messages said by all the multiple magic mouth spells. Because if the instances of Magic Mouth repeat (and let’s face it, if you are the kind of person who will do a monologue you don’t want it to just go off once) if any trigger word is not unique, every time it is said by any magic mouth, it will trigger the magic mouth that uses it as a trigger. Which may force the person writing the monologue (you the DM) to use some very odd words, every 25 words, to make sure they are unique in the text. If you are into the kind of writing challenge, go for it.

As a bonus, if you want the wizard to come off as incompetent, this could go badly wrong with the magic mouths stuck in infinite loops of being triggered while other mouths are talking. Which you would need to use silence or dispel magic to stop.

Also did the wizard specify when his voice said the trigger word, or when anyone says the trigger word. Because there is all kinds of potential for the PCs to garble it by triggering multiple magic mouths at once, if any voice will work. Or they may trigger it in the middle.
 

Lukas Sjöström

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I second that an NPC can have a version of Magic Mouth without a word limit. The spells for PCs do not have to be all the spells in the world. You can totally do this without complications if you want to.
Should it be called "Mordenkainen's Mind-numbing Monologue" or "Bigby's Boundless Blabbermouth"?
 

Barbatruc

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PCs walk into the room. A dozen magic mouths appear across the walls and ceiling. The doors seal behind the PCs, and then the magic mouths start singing acapella. Oh, and the voices are clearly goblins.
Spoiler for a classic module:
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D1 Descent Into the Depths of the Earth, room 7 in the CAVERNS AND WARRENS OF THE TROGLODYTES: "The lich, Asberdies, has cast 600 magic mouth spells in various portions of his lair — walls, floor, ceiling, and on stalactites and stalagmites too." The only recorded function is to throw off magic detection, so...
... what they have to say is all up to the referee.
 

LordofArcana

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If you want to strictly follow the exact rules for Magic Mouth for some reason (like humor): Yes you can do that. But the last word that triggers the next magic mouth needs to be unique within all the messages said by all the multiple magic mouth spells.
Couldn't you just have the trigger be the complete previous mouth's message?
 

GetterBurai

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Couldn't you just have the trigger be the complete previous mouth's message?
Yes. "The triggering circumstance can be as general or as detailed as you like, though it must be based on visual or audible Conditions that occur within 30 feet of the object."
 

junglefowl26

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Another way around it would be to not put them on the same object, but multiple objects in a row. Like every step on a flight of stairs.


.....Actually, come to think of it, I kind of like the idea of a long dungeon where the entrance to every room contains the next part of a monoluge, supplemented by murals or carvings on the walls depicting related events.

In particular, I am imagining an aboleth dungeon giving a speech similar to this:
 
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