Because I’m asking about expectations, not results.

For example - if a person expects to join a group that plays like CR, then that is an unreasonable expectation.

If it turns out that the group they end up joining, by some miracle,

I mean, for a local example, suppose my PC hears in the tavern about a cliff along the trail they would need to climb. They get no more detail than that it is a cliff. If they have a +2 climb bonus should they expect to complete that route? If they have a +20, how about then? What isn’t a useful answer is “it depends on the cliff.” While it will be true in practice, the process of expecting can begin in the tavern, and so can the judgment of expectations.

So what is the reasonable expectation if you haven’t met the group yet?

For example - if a person expects to join a group that plays like CR, then that is an unreasonable expectation.

If it turns out that the group they end up joining, by some miracle,

*does*play that way.. then the expectation*was still unreasonable*at the moment they had it. Just like it’s unreasonable to expect to win the lottery, and that doesn’t retroactively become reasonable if you do win.I mean, for a local example, suppose my PC hears in the tavern about a cliff along the trail they would need to climb. They get no more detail than that it is a cliff. If they have a +2 climb bonus should they expect to complete that route? If they have a +20, how about then? What isn’t a useful answer is “it depends on the cliff.” While it will be true in practice, the process of expecting can begin in the tavern, and so can the judgment of expectations.

So what is the reasonable expectation if you haven’t met the group yet?

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