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flouveida
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As some folks know, Lou Zocchi's GameScience was purchased awhile back by a company called Gamestation. I just tried to order some GameScience dice from them. Emphasis on tried.

Where to start? First, GameStation apparently uses the CCG Armory definition of "in stock". Of the seven line items I ordered, at least two were not going to be available for six months or more, despite one of them being listed as in stock, and the other being listed as back in stock "in the next 5 Business Days", with an invitation to go ahead and preorder. When I had to call them (more on that in a minute), I was told that the five business days thing is a "blanket statement"--that's a quote--for all out of stock items, and bears no relation to reality.

The first problem I noticed was the wrong D8 color on my order confirmation email. I had ordered Aquamarine, the email said Teal Zircon. The wrong color is also listed in a couple of places on their website. It looked like it was just a typo--somebody copied and pasted and forget to change the color in all the different places--but I didn't want to risk getting the wrong dice and going through the hassle of a return.

I tried to email them about it, but every attempt was bounced back as undeliverable. I tried both directly emailing the addresses listed on their website, and replying to the order confirmation email. I got bounced every time with the same error message.

So I had to call them. That's a big inconvenience for me, because I have only a limited number of phone minutes per month. Their automated phone tree didn't have any options for problems with an existing order, so I had to guess which department I needed, and of course the guess was wrong. So I had to get put on hold and transferred, and wait some more and explain the problem twice. On top of which, the second person was someplace with loud machinery, and I could barely hear him.

To add insult to injury, he called me "sir", repeatedly. :mad: I realize I don't have the most feminine voice in the world, but he had my order right in front of him. How many guys do you know named Marian?

That phone call is when I found out about the first of the two "won't have them for six months" items. The next day I received an email from the guy I spoke with, telling me about the other. Since that one was the single biggest part of the order, I just canceled the whole thing at that point. At least his email address, unlike the official ones, didn't bounce when I replied.

This has been the third worst mail order experience I ever had, and I'm sufficiently upset to never order from them again. Since they own GameScience, that means I'll be sticking with Chessex dice.

As of this afternoon, four five days after that phone call, the typo for the D8 color hasn't been fixed. Still don't have my money back yet, either.


(I wondered if maybe this thread should go in Game Industry Shop Talk instead, but I checked and there have been reviews of Noble Knight and Troll & Toad here in TRO, as well as that recent one for CCG Armory in Other Games.)
 
Wasn't the Chessex Precision Dice the same as Gamescience dice (I think I heard they were reselling GS dice...don't know if it was true or not.)

On the other hand, I have a set of the Gamescience dice...I think I like my Crystal Caste dice better...
 

Kinetic Energy Weapon

flouveida
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John Wayne! I admit I don't know any others but he's gotta count for like 20 dudes right?

That's Marion. :p

ETA: And even then, he changed it.
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Runeslinger

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Apologies for this act of necromancy, but I have a recent experience with GameStation.net to add.

Reasons aside, I tried to find one site from which I could order a D30, D24, D20, D16, D12, D%, D10, D8, D7, D6, D5, D4 and D3 in as close to what could appear to be a set as possible and have them sent to me on the other side of the Earth. I would normally do this via FRP Games as they never seem to let me down, but they, like most other vendors simply did not have enough of the required dice in stock. Ultimately, I found I could get all the dice (albeit not as a set: the D30 and D7 have very limited options and sizes) at Game Station. As a bonus, the sets available were uninked GameScience dice which is what I was hoping to get. Their website was okay, they take paypal without having to register, and the prices were fine, so I ordered a large amount of dice: 3 complete sets as described above with extras of the more frequently rolled and pooled dice, and some things just for amusement. It was a large order.

My package arrived within two days of my shipping notification, three days after ordering. I was very satisfied with two of the three sets. One set, however (blue moonstone), could not be said to be drawn from dice of the same colour. I suspect I got sent a mixed portion of blue moonstone and sapphire dice. I'll survive on that score.
12+-+2


The problem was a different thing entirely.

The problem was that as I was sorting them into dice bags and checking them off the packing list I discovered that 3 of the very many dice were missing.

As they were 3 identical dice from 1 set, I figured the item had just been misplaced during packing, no big deal. I immediately sent a message to the customer service email address. After two days, I wrote again as I had not not gotten a reply. I also wrote an email to their shipping questions address and their marketing address, just in case.

The next day, I got a notification that three dice were being sent to me by first class mail. I was satisfied with this, although it still seemed strange to not actually get a reply to any of my e-mail. As I looked at the invoice to verify the details, I saw that the dice they were sending were a different color entirely. (Diamond, not blue moonstone). I again contacted all three addresses by e-mail to inform them of the error.

No reply.

I waited a day and sent another e-mail.

No reply.

I waited another day (now we are up to this morning), called, and sent a battery of e-mail to as many addresses as I could find.

Still waiting (10 hours later at time of writing).

Checking the tracking number, the parcel is still ostensibly sitting in the depot in Kentucky. Quick action could save us both from processing a return and help speed the correct dice on their way to me.

I was completely satisfied with the order until having to deal with customer service. I do not know how it will turn out in the end, but I can't imagine dealing with the company again unless I have some sort of dice emergency: they seem to have the capability to provide fast and efficient service, but when things go astray there are simply too many uncertainties. As I live in Asia, those uncertainties bloom into very long delays and the potential for inflated return costs.
 

Uncouth

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This is so strange to me.

I've ordered from Gamestation on several occasions. I have never had any of these problems. I recently ordered 4 standard sets of GameScience dice in different colors, and added a block of 12d6, 3d4, 3d8, 9d10, 1d20 and 1d12 to each "set" so I could have sets for at least 4 people that was complete enough to play almost any game. I received my order flawlessly two days later (I'm in the same State as their Bricks and Mortar store) and actually exchanged several e-mails with them about custom dice and such. I was responded to the same day I sent the e-mail in each of the 3 exchanges I had with them. I have been getting excellent customer service from them.

I don't understand why other folks are getting such bad service. It's frustrating, as I like the company, but it makes me wonder if the good service I've gotten has been a fluke.
 

Runeslinger

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I was completely satisfied with the order until having to deal with customer service. I do not know how it will turn out in the end, but I can't imagine dealing with the company again unless I have some sort of dice emergency: they seem to have the capability to provide fast and efficient service, but when things go astray there are simply too many uncertainties. As I live in Asia, those uncertainties bloom into very long delays and the potential for inflated return costs.


Update:
A few days after my post above, the company returned my email with a 'Don't worry' message. Not long after that, their customer service rep replied with the explanation that people had been on vacation.

Fair enough.

So, the problems I encountered were due to one honest oversight of missing one line in 40 on an order sheet, which then spilled into sending the wrong item by a less undestandable error, coupled with a lack of communication. To be clear, I find their notifications to be excellent. Now that personnel have returned from vacation, their email responses have improved immensely.

The Solution:
It was too late to catch the erroneous sending of the wrong replacement dice by the time customer service got involved. The correct dice are on their way to me, and the company graciously allowed me to keep the ones sent in error. I am completely satisfied with that solution.

Will I order from them again?
They have excellent stock and fast service. I will consider it, with simpler orders. I had reached a point of saying 'never again,' but am now ready to reconsider.
 

Runeslinger

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Update:
The Solution:
It was too late to catch the erroneous sending of the wrong replacement dice by the time customer service got involved. The correct dice are on their way to me, and the company graciously allowed me to keep the ones sent in error. I am completely satisfied with that solution.

Will I order from them again?
They have excellent stock and fast service. I will consider it, with simpler orders. I had reached a point of saying 'never again,' but am now ready to reconsider.

Further Update:

In addition to waiving the need to return the dice sent to me in error, the company has also contacted me to provide me with an excellent discount on a future order.

I will definitely give them a second chance.
 

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