I was reincarnated as a Manga & Written Japanese discussion thread (Part 3!)

0Megabyte

Stardust Princeling
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Continuing my habit of delving into yesterday's manga, and after having recently enjoyed the anime, I've been reading Excel Saga. Man, Viz had a lot of fun translating this one. In particular, Excel's range of frenzied vocabulary is insane.

Quick description for the unitiated: Comedy manga, from 1996 to 2011. Two young women, Excel and Hyatt, work for a supervillain bent on world domination. But supervillainy doesn't pay wages, so they have to wreck their way through a string of part-time jobs to survive. Excel's super power is "never shutting up"; Hyatt's superpower is "dying a lot". Meanwhile, another group of characters scored what they hoped would be decent civil service jobs, but their department head has decided that they will be the core of his secret superhero team, and so occasionally has them test the equipment or go out on calls. Coincidentally, both teams live unawares in the same apartment building. So, basically, it's life with jobs that suck, cranked up to 11.

The 1999 anime took the characters and basic premise and threw them through a series of Python-esque sketches and genre parodies. A bit less social satire, a lot more meta-media satire.

I enjoyed the anime quite a bit; I think I may like some aspects of the manga better. One thing that stands out to me is that Excel and Hyatt in the manga are both a lot more… let us say cunning, rather than smarter… than they come off in the animated adaptation. They also have a more cordial relationship. I was a little surprised the first time I read them cooperating on diplomatically buttering-up their boss to save Excel from a punishment.

Come to think of it, this would be fairly good inspiration for a Paranoia campaign.
I own the first 8 volumes of that manga! It was fun.

...and now that you think of it, it really is good Paranoia reading. I have that new boxed set, it's lovely. I should really get a game going...
 

Shay Guy

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I'd be interested in reading the Excel Saga manga -- I think I own a stray volume somewhere, possibly looted from the collapsing hulk of a Borders -- but I remember reading there's one volume that's basically impossible to find, and I'm not sure I want to start it if I'll come to a cliff halfway through. If there's a digital version, my library doesn't have it.
 

Ultimate Chicken

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Otherworld Hospitality & Meals (Isekai Otomenashi Gohan) (Manga) #8 part 2

Must be popular round those parts to have a fairy queen named Titania, eh.

We may have a new second best fairy here (the best, of course, still being Cirno)! She drinks like a Touhou character. I mean, she only takes the sweet stuff, but still.
 

darkgloomie

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Posting for the little arrow next to the thread, my reading has been a little slow lately.

Though The Ancient Magus Bride keeps being great, and we probably have met (one panel only) the villian of the school arc
 

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Stardust Princeling
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Stumbled upon a trashy manga.

How to Build a Dungeon - To be fair, one of my biggest annoyances is how nobody bothers going all out on their power fantasies. This is the story of a dark lord who, after many years, has begun his construction of a dungeon. A human sorcerer of great power, he summons a succubus to aid him as assistant. Then turns a heroine into a fallen hero. And takes another young woman as his sorcerer apprentice.

...and it's basically just Skinemax style soft-core porn. Don't bother, unless that's your thing. (And even then, I've read far more engaging stories in smutty doujinshi...)

Edit: Oh look, reading farther, it's much worse. Yaaaaay...
 
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darkgloomie

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Stumbled upon a trashy manga.

How to Build a Dungeon - To be fair, one of my biggest annoyances is how nobody bothers going all out on their power fantasies. This is the story of a dark lord who, after many years, has begun his construction of a dungeon. A human sorcerer of great power, he summons a succubus to aid him as assistant. Then turns a heroine into a fallen hero. And takes another young woman as his sorcerer apprentice.

...and it's basically just Skinemax style soft-core porn. Don't bother, unless that's your thing. (And even then, I've read far more engaging stories in smutty doujinshi...)
I swear I heard that exact same sales pitch before. Does he turn the heroine by attacking the village she came from and making them blame her for it, then murder all the villagers to I dunno, comfort her?

But then again, this trashy premise is excdedingly common. I've stumbled onto an Isekai with the Dungeon Master premise but less villainous. Except there also was plenty of torture porn but it's not the protagonist doing it, so it's ok to degrade the heroines/haremettes.

(Dropped like a hot coal, btw)
 

0Megabyte

Stardust Princeling
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I swear I heard that exact same sales pitch before. Does he turn the heroine by attacking the village she came from and making them blame her for it, then murder all the villagers to I dunno, comfort her?
That's the exact manga. Although it isn't her home village or anything, just the one that sent her. Though like I just edited the above post to say, I read ahead and it gets, uh... gets even worse.
 

darkgloomie

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That's the exact manga. Although it isn't her home village or anything, just the one that sent her. Though like I just edited the above post to say, I read ahead and it gets, uh... gets even worse.
Yeah I know it does, I was being coy to avoid saying exactly how fucked up it gets.

There's playing a villian, and then there's playing a villian.
 
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s/LaSH

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Stumbled upon a trashy manga.

How to Build a Dungeon - To be fair, one of my biggest annoyances is how nobody bothers going all out on their power fantasies. This is the story of a dark lord who, after many years, has begun his construction of a dungeon. A human sorcerer of great power, he summons a succubus to aid him as assistant. Then turns a heroine into a fallen hero. And takes another young woman as his sorcerer apprentice.

...and it's basically just Skinemax style soft-core porn. Don't bother, unless that's your thing. (And even then, I've read far more engaging stories in smutty doujinshi...)

Edit: Oh look, reading farther, it's much worse. Yaaaaay...
I have met this story (criticism comes best from an informed position), and it is pretty much Dungeon Keeper fanfic with no gameplay abstraction of the bit where you can capture invading heroes and turn them to your side. There's a lot of turning them to your side, in some detail.

The main character is not a blank slate, which is usually a good thing, but this guy is towards the darker end of the "slave master fantasy" domain. What kind of person would actually brainwash and dominate his way to power like this? Somebody with really really extreme control issues is who. Most of the time he's Doctor Doom level "do not resist me and I shall be a kind master".

Then:

Spoiler: Show

We get introduced to a female strategist on the side of the kingdom, who uses brains to subvert the dark lord's powers, in an effort to prove her worth in a system that's pretty sexist and tries to shut her down despite her competence. She actually manages to capture the dark lord briefly, and offers to switch sides when his minions come to rescue him.

This would ordinarily be another haremette intro.

But this guy has control issues, and as an enemy she threatened him, so he burns her to death.


On the one hand, this is entirely in character, and it's not what you'd do in a story that serves purely as a vehicle for smut. On the other hand, yikes. And it's not like the rest of the story isn't smut heavy.

So this is really not a nice story. It's purposefully dark on top of the usual coercive smut that you get in stories of this ilk. You could describe this as depth, but there are some bodies of water where swimming is just a bad idea, and the deeper they get the more dangerous they are.
 

Solarn

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Stumbled upon a trashy manga.

How to Build a Dungeon - To be fair, one of my biggest annoyances is how nobody bothers going all out on their power fantasies. This is the story of a dark lord who, after many years, has begun his construction of a dungeon. A human sorcerer of great power, he summons a succubus to aid him as assistant. Then turns a heroine into a fallen hero. And takes another young woman as his sorcerer apprentice.

...and it's basically just Skinemax style soft-core porn. Don't bother, unless that's your thing. (And even then, I've read far more engaging stories in smutty doujinshi...)

Edit: Oh look, reading farther, it's much worse. Yaaaaay...
Oh yeah, several years ago there was a trend of pornographic isekai/isekai-adjacent LNs with villain protagonists who rape a lot of women, and then recently some of them have been getting manga adaptations. Another one is "The princess knight is my classmate" ("princess knight" being a hentai archetype that only exists to cater to misogynistic "powerful woman is brought low and raped by monsters/villains until she likes it" fantasies). It was even mentioned in a previous thread.

EDIT: To return to more pleasant topics, Kumo Desu Ga just made its first major revision to the webnovel's story.

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This time, when Kumoko reaches Taboo 10, she doesn't go berserk and immediately massacre a ton of people, instead her Parallel Will allows her "Information in charge" personality to absorb the shock, leaving the personalities in control of her body unaffected. In the WN, the only way to withstand Taboo 10's effect was to have Heresy Immunity, which Kumoko gained during her rampage.
 
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