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[In Which I Review] New anime, Fall 2015

Wolfwood2

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Hopefully when Qwenther discovers his inner Ality Mellowlink/Ben Barberry and starts playing Shadows of the Colossus with the Objects, he'll shut up a bit.

That is where this is going isn't it?

Not that I'd object to a wacky mecha maintenance crew slice of life show, but this doesn't look like it.
Yeah, there will be Object-fighting using SCIENCE. Also, though Qwenther is maybe marginally the main character, it's really a buddy action movie with his friend Havia. (Havia is allowed to shoot people/things.)
 

Rainfall

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Hopefully when Qwenther discovers his inner Ality Mellowlink/Ben Barberry and starts playing Shadows of the Colossus with the Objects, he'll shut up a bit.

That is where this is going isn't it?

Not that I'd object to a wacky mecha maintenance crew slice of life show, but this doesn't look like it.
It's not just that they won't shut up, it's that what they're actually saying isn't worth wasting 22 minutes. We get it, Objects made conventional military forces obsolete and it's mostly seen as a good thing. The End.

I'll give it a few more episodes but let's be honest: unless something changes drastically they managed to fuck up Shadow of the Colossus vs. O.G.R.E. That's kinda impressive. :p

It's amazing how much a difference pacing and characterisation can do.

On a more positive note: Yeah, Concrete Revolutio is awesome and totally bonkers. Even better, it doesn't treat the audience like idiots.
 
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Jhiday

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Proper reviews will have to wait until tomorrow, but I can already say this : if you have any interest in High School Star Musical, don't watch Osamatsu-san just before. It'll totally ruin the experience.

(But do watch Osamatsu-san eventually, as it's utterly hilarious. More details tomorrow.)
 

Catfish

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I'll give it a few more episodes but let's be honest: unless something changes drastically they managed to fuck up Shadow of the Colossus vs. O.G.R.E. That's kinda impressive. :p

It's amazing how much a difference pacing and characterisation can do.

On a more positive note: Yeah, Concrete Revolutio is awesome and totally bonkers. Even better, it doesn't treat the audience like idiots.
I'm more interested in the slackers manning this Arctic boondocks military base than my 1,000 dose of Anime Mecha Action, so I didn't mind the pacing. Remains to be seen whether those slackers can sustain a season, but I already find them more interesting than everyone in Revolutio besides the magical girl.
 
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Rainfall

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I'm more interested in the slackers manning this Arctic boondocks military base than my 1,000 dose of Anime Mecha Action, so I didn't mind the pacing. Remains to be seen whether those slackers can sustain a season, but I already find them more interesting than everyone in Revolutio besides the magical girl.
Hmm... I'm pretty sure Heavy Object is WAY more mecha action than the trippy magical girl show. Revolutio reminds me more of Men in Black.

Slacker protagonists aren't rare in anime eighter, for very obvious reasons. You could swap the protag from Utawarerumono with eighter of those two and litterally nothing would change. :p

And I usually really like the archetype. I love Utawarerumono, I really liked Itami from Gate. I suspect the problem is presentation, Itami and Haku are shown in a rather positive light, Itami takes a leadership role when a crisis happens while Haku is an easygoing fellow who fixes stuff. The protagonists of Heavy Object are depicted as dump assholes who dump their duty, abuse public property, don't realise guns make noise and would rather let a girl die from asphyxia than risk coming into contact with 14 year old boobies.

That said, I'd totally watch a workplace comedy in a sci-fi military base in the northern boondocks. :D
 
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Jhiday

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There's NOTHING out today (aside from Aria the Scarlet Ammo 2 and some random Hokuto no Ken SD thingie), so I have plenty of time to look back on yesterday's shows.



Osomatsu-san
(12 episodes)

What's it about ?

Osomatsu-kun was a 60s family-friendly gag manga which got an anime adaptation at the time, then another one in the 80s. This year would have marked the 80th anniversary of its creator, so here's another go at it. But freshening it up for a modern audience is by all measures an uphill challenge, for reason I'll get into just below.

You can just hear the producers behind this revival loudly shouting : CHALLENGE ACCEPTED.

Characters

So, the gimmick here is that Osomatsu is the eldest of sextuplet teenagers. And the gag was that they're indeed all identical, with only their voices and personalities barely helping the audience to call them apart. Well, that and their really dated 60s-pop-culture-derivative catchphrases. Let's even politely not talk about the supporting cast, a bunch of ridiculous-looking stereotypes. There's no way modern audiences will want to watch this, right ?

But then, what are you going to do ? Stunt-cast A-rank voice-actors, the likes of Takahiro Sakurai, Hiroshi Kamiya, Jun Fukuyama & Daisuke Ono, to play the sextuplets ? Turn them into a colour-coded boys' band attending (*snicker*) "BL Academy" ? Have them act out awful cliché personas that are wildly out of character for them ? Have the supporting cast turned into more "cool" clichés, such as the delinquents or the Awesome Rival who's totally not the French caricature from the original show ?

This naked commercial grab is a complete disaster, as the characters end up being completely exhausted and direly long for the commercial break to come. Even the most gratuitous Attack on Titan parody ever, or downright blatantly copying famous shonen shows, can't stop this from falling apart. It's just... not what them, you see ?

And so the show ends with the sextuplets still grasping for an answer to their conundrum. And they've been at it for so long that they're now all in their mid-20s ; which is a new status quo that should give the writers enough rope to tell new stories.

At least, they really hope so.

Production Values

Studio Pierrot have outdone themselves here. The fake-retro opener, in a B&W 4/3 format with tons of artefacts, feels true to the original show. The parody section that constitutes much of this first episode both feels true enough to work, while still having enough weirdness in the background to sell that this is all a sham. And the final designs it settles on are decent modern upgrades that feel true to the source.

Overall Impression

For the record, I don't believe this episode is really indicative of what'll come next ; it's here to make a point about how anime has changed over the decades (and not always for the better), while acknowledging that just slavishly copying either what was done in the 60s or what's popular now just wouldn't work. It's the writers clearly stating that nostalgia alone can't carry the show.

It's also absolutely hilarious from start to finish, with impeccable comedic timing, even when they have to deliver bad jokes on purpose. This is metafiction on steroids, but done really well. And since it's a gag show, they can totally get away with it.

Now, there are worrying signs. The joke may have gotten a bit overextended to fill the whole episode ; not all of the gags land. I still can't tell too many of the sextuplets apart. (There's Osomatsu, the "leader" ; Choromatsu, the straight man to most of their ramblings ; and maybe Todomatsu, who's the "youngest" one ? The others are still a bit of a blur.) And most importantly, there's no evidence yet that the writers have solved their central quandary, i.e. how to tell modern stories with these characters without losing their soul in the process. Can this premise actually support a full season ?

But hey, this first episode was fun enough that I'm willing to give them a bit of rope to see them try.

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STAR-MYU - High School Star Musical
(12 episodes)

What's it about ?

Oh, dear. This is a show about a colour-coded boys' band attending high-school. There's just no way I can take this seriously, given how the previous show lampooned the genre to hell and back.

Characters

Hoshitani is our central protagonist. He's enrolled into this school because he's looking for some handsome singer he once saw wearing this uniform, and for some reason hasn't bothered at all to look into how things work here.

Fortunately, this shy guy called Nayuki is perfectly willing to provide him with tons of helpful exposition. They end up being roommates, of course.

So the idea is that there are "Star" singer groups which are created from a very selective process organized by the most senior and elite Star group. You enter individually, and there's certainly no guarantee you'll end up with people you enjoy the company of. Hoshitani certainly has already managed to piss off a couple of them.

Since the Super-Star group are all humourless and stern dudes, I'm pretty sure the bizarre and mismatched group our heroes end up with is the work of one Ootori, who's been roped in to help the Super-Stars out through a combination of nepotism and plain awesomeness. I like this dude, he's a fun troll.

Since there's not a single female character of any significance in sight, I'm guessing this is a boys-only school.

Production Values

Good enough for this kind of thing, and the musical numbers aren't too bad.

Overall Impression

Yeah, no, sorry, I just can't judge this fairly. It's actually quite decent, with enough of a sense of humour about itself to be perfectly watchable despite piling on the clichés. I've seen much worse in the same genre. (Shonen Hollywood, I'm looking at you.)

But, well, I'm just not the audience for this kind of thing, and it was unlucky enough that context destroyed any interest I may have had in it. I'll pass.
 
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Unseenlibrarian

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Yeah, it's an adaptation of an "Ignore the male lead almost entirely, follow around first year girl with a crush on the title character" manga. The Soul-eater Not of Light novel anime adaptations.
 

KoboldLord

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Isn't this series meant to be a spin-off rather than a sequel? I can't say for sure as I haven't seen either one, but I think I recall reading that somewhere.
I would be surprised. Aria the Scarlet Ammo 1 only covered the introductory arcs for three of the five haremettes, and the other two were just kind of around. It isn't even entirely clear yet what the main plot of the whole story is actually going to be, so it's hard to have a spin-off.
 
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