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[Netflix] The Dragon Prince Book 2: Sky (Discussion Thread)

Morty

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Humans without magic are objectively less. Why shouldn't they have it?
Less than what? And how is it objective? They're not "less" than anything or anyone just because they can't do magic. Is Rayla "less" than Lujanne because she only uses the innate moonshadow elf powers?

Humans should be able to use magic if they want to, but they shouldn't need it. We don't know why it was believed that they can't use primal magic until Callum managed to. Or why it's believed that elves can only use one primal arcanum despite Aaravos using more. But calling them "lesser beings" like Sol Regex does is wrong regardless of whether or not they're able to learn primal magic or dark magic.
 

LordofArcana

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Callum believed that he was objectively less because he couldn't use magic and felt he was useless before he learned any. Presumably there are other people like him that are needlessly suffering for having been cut off from a part of their heritage, especially since he is nobility and they likely wouldn't be.

There are also likely kids like Ezran but in less accepting families that wonder if they are freaks because there is simply no context for what they can do.

And to spell this out in no uncertain terms, does anyone believe that Amaya is 'objectively less' because she doesn't have hearing?
Of course not.
 

Dave999

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And to spell this out in no uncertain terms, does anyone believe that Amaya is 'objectively less' because she doesn't have hearing?
Adding magic to anything makes it better.

So, yes, Amaya with magic would be even more awesome.

It is not a abelist issue, it is a skill one. Like knowing how to play the piano is always better than not.
 

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It is not a abelist issue, it is a skill one. Like knowing how to play the piano is always better than not.
Magic more often then not is an inborn trait rather than skill.
No amount of training will allow Sokka to be a bender, Cullum could use the prime stone (adn dark magic) because he was born a mage (he just never had chance to learn about), and Murphy could fling spells even if Dresendtough her too.
Even when it can be taught, usually you need a be part of a bloodline to use it fully: Giles can use rituals but he'll never be as creating magic as Willow, and Constantine not being a Homo Magus will never be as powerful as magic-user as Zatanna (his awesomeness comes from his non-magic skill set.)

Magic really is just a skill, and characters can be more awesome because there not or less magical (Sokka and John being examples).
 

Morty

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Morty

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Adding magic to anything makes it better.

So, yes, Amaya with magic would be even more awesome.
I don't know about other people, but to me someone who contends with magic users while having no magic of their own is much more awesome than someone who matches magic with magic.

Whatever the reason humans couldn't learn primal arcana before Callum somehow managed to should be explored and done away with so they can pursue it if they want to. But those who choose not to aren't "less", nor would the entire human race be "less" if they were completely incapable of magic.
 

darkgloomie

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I thought she was both? She reads lips rather than listen to people. Like when she tells Rayla to look at her while speaking.
Dunno? Haven't watched the shos in a while, so you're probably right.

In which case it's also possoble she's a non-verbal deaf
 
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