Hm!So a morality question I've always had about Nobils. Consider these three scenarios:
1) Amicus, the Power of Friends, worries that the Aaron's Serpent known as Chuubo is lonely, and in danger of befriending the Excrucians. He uses a Lesser Creation of Friends to make a friend for the giant snake.
2) Iolithae sees a lonely Aaron's Serpent, and fears he may spoil her plans unless distracted. "You're busy with your friend," she tells Chuubo, and thus it is.
3) The Actual Seizhi Schwan (created by a hubristic wish) has to go on a trip, and is worried that his friend will get lonely, so he finds a random person. "You are Seizhi Schwan and will spend time with your friend Chuubo," he says to that person, and verily, it happens.
My understanding is that the universe regards act number 1 as normal, number 2 as wrong, and number 3 as a blesphemy to Creation. Is that the case? Is there a difference between the three? Or is it propoganda?
Certainly the universe doesn't mind Actuals. It might object to Seizhi Schwan being/becoming a person, but it does not object to him infecting a greater portion of the prosaic and mythic world; in fact, that can be considered one of its error-correcting mechanisms, like a metaphorical scab.
We come, though, to the question of what objects to Iolithae?
That gets really tricky because when I dug under the surface to figure out what was going on with the Deceivers it turns out a lot of them come straight from the world. Not the Lands Beyond it. Iolithae Septimian may have been infected by something from Outside. She may be an incarnation of a nameless force that dwells beyond the stars---but her origin story, right down to the claim that she exists to redress the Imperial impulse to nail things down too tightly, could be a basically correct thing. And then what we really get is that the lies of Iolithae Septimian are sacred, and yet you must not let her speak, not because of some cosmic principle, but because, look, people have millennia of experience with her, and what they've passed on is, she is sacred, she is holy, for the love of all you hold dear do not let her speak.
Which is not really the universe objecting except insofar as many of those who passed those warnings on represented rather large metaphysical chunks of the universe.
What's certainly true is that "the Lies of Iolithae Septimian" exists in a kind of isolation from the world, behind a membrane of a sort, in a way that other Estates, that Noble/Imperial Estates, basically don't. It isn't a part of the scheme of things, and when she fissions off a bit of it to make it part of the scheme of things, she's doing a more profound operation than when someone changes things from within.
It's like if you're working on a collaborative group analysis of comparative fleece growth rates in sheep exposed to different magical formulae---it's one thing if someone in the group tweaks the paper, or changes a diagram, and another thing if some random shepherd girl from Guttenberg breaks into the lab and does it, even if her ideas are rigorous and well-thought-out.
Conversely, I suppose you could say that Seizhi Schwan doing it is kind of like Clippy doing it. If the universe were, like, MS Word. Does that make sense? That's why you can't say that the universe objects. It doesn't object! But you might.
it looks like you're criticizing Leonardo's Abhorrent Sheep-Motivating Prescription. Would you like help?