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[schlock Mercenary] So I just read Today's strip..

Max

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Plus, as we have seen, like the Pa'anuri the exo-galactic worldfleets also have ships the size of planets - like big big - so massive, round is the only shape they can be. :)
 

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Plus, as we have seen, like the Pa'anuri the exo-galactic worldfleets also have ships the size of planets - like big big - so massive, round is the only shape they can be. :)
I'm thinking they are planets, or at least started their life as such, before being extensively rebuilt into escape vehicles. :)

Also, with the Pa'anuri thing deforming and demolishing the Neptunian-scale ice giant, this is getting downright Lensmanian, and I couldn't be happier. Comics are the perfect format for showing a megascale galactic war with all the lurid explosions and starkly insane energies used!
 

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Plus, as we have seen, like the Pa'anuri the exo-galactic worldfleets also have ships the size of planets - like big big - so massive, round is the only shape they can be. :)
Side note - that part makes little sense. If round is the only shape you can be, you can't have, say, internal volumes. The thing that makes round the only available shape being that gravity would crush any other shape you might have into the ball...

The only way that could work that I can see is if they're a shell of ship wrapped around a gigantic sphere of bulk mostly-uncompressible matter to provide a long term resource stockpile.

Also, the idea that 'round is the only shape you can be' seems a bit ridiculous when gravitics that can make a mockery of the forces involved there are tech everybody has.
 

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Side note - that part makes little sense. If round is the only shape you can be, you can't have, say, internal volumes. The thing that makes round the only available shape being that gravity would crush any other shape you might have into the ball...

The only way that could work that I can see is if they're a shell of ship wrapped around a gigantic sphere of bulk mostly-uncompressible matter to provide a long term resource stockpile.

Also, the idea that 'round is the only shape you can be' seems a bit ridiculous when gravitics that can make a mockery of the forces involved there are tech everybody has.
Anything we’ve seen throwing around planet-scale masses has basically been designed for only that. Even Oisiri was a planet shaped thing.

Remember, planets are BIG. Throwing around something the size of Io is presented as something that takes decades.
 

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Anything we’ve seen throwing around planet-scale masses has basically been designed for only that. Even Oisiri was a planet shaped thing.

Remember, planets are BIG. Throwing around something the size of Io is presented as something that takes decades.
Oisiri was a planet-shaped thing that massed enough for that to perhaps make sense...but only if its ultra-tech interior is made of entirely load-bearing materials, somehow, despite being also made almsot entirely of hyper-advanced hardware relating to its purpose..

Planetary bodies find 'round the only shape they can be' because the materials they're made of are effectively fluid on the scale they're built on. That's not a description compatible with machinery, or living quarters, or really with much in the way of doing useful things.
 

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Maybe they are planets, converted for travel. Maybe using the planetary core as a power source. Or artificial planets with habitable "crust" structures wrapped around humongous annie plant cores. Given the tech level in play, there's no real reason planet-sized machines could not be built "fluid" in the same way actual planets are - they don't necessarily need to be rigid mechanical structures like modern human-scale machines.
 

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Oisiri was a planet-shaped thing that massed enough for that to perhaps make sense...but only if its ultra-tech interior is made of entirely load-bearing materials, somehow, despite being also made almsot entirely of hyper-advanced hardware relating to its purpose..

Planetary bodies find 'round the only shape they can be' because the materials they're made of are effectively fluid on the scale they're built on. That's not a description compatible with machinery, or living quarters, or really with much in the way of doing useful things.
Most of Oisiri was an annie plant of staggeringly stupid proportions, with the exponential power curve still in place. It fabricated a Pan’uri with microscopic gravity control and possibly dark matter infrastructure, like a Battleplate.

A neutronium scaffold, or other kind of super-strong material, still makes sense to have a spherical shape. Yeah you CAN cheat with gravy, but why would you when you can use that power for more interesting things.
 

Ulzgoroth

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Maybe they are planets, converted for travel. Maybe using the planetary core as a power source. Or artificial planets with habitable "crust" structures wrapped around humongous annie plant cores.
Planetary cores are not meaningful power sources by the standards in play.
Given the tech level in play, there's no real reason planet-sized machines could not be built "fluid" in the same way actual planets are - they don't necessarily need to be rigid mechanical structures like modern human-scale machines.
I think there's very good reasons to think that having bits that are able to hold themselves together remains important to Schlock Mercenary tech, even for precursors.
Most of Oisiri was an annie plant of staggeringly stupid proportions, with the exponential power curve still in place. It fabricated a Pan’uri with microscopic gravity control and possibly dark matter infrastructure, like a Battleplate.

A neutronium scaffold, or other kind of super-strong material, still makes sense to have a spherical shape. Yeah you CAN cheat with gravy, but why would you when you can use that power for more interesting things.
Many things make sense to have a spherical shape. Maybe even most things, in space. But what Petey asserted is that this ship is so massive it can only be round, and that is what I'm objecting to.


Also, right now the comic is demonstrating that you can have a ship both bigger and more massive than a gas giant that is not spherical.
 

LoneWolf23

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Also, right now the comic is demonstrating that you can have a ship both bigger and more massive than a gas giant that is not spherical.
Well, technically, the Pa'anuri ship is spherical, it's just that most of its mass is most likely made up of Dark Matter.
 

DarkStarling

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Well, technically, the Pa'anuri ship is spherical, it's just that most of its mass is most likely made up of Dark Matter.
The mere protrusion into our dimension of vast hyper intelligent pan dimensional beings.

Until we get something better, I dub this ship Micky Mouse
 
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