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Tunnels and Trolls - Don't buy from Outlaw Press

Chade

Setting junkie
I am reposting the letter Ken has posted:

James,

I received your package yesterday with some surprise. Received six copies of the revised Gristlegrim Dungeon. This dismays me, as I told you to quit publishing it back in January of this year when I broke with you. If this parcel was an attempt at a reconciliation between us, then I appreciate the effort you took, but I reject it. Our friendship and partnership is broken and done forever. I do not wish to collaborate on Gristlegrim or any other project with you. Not now! Not ever again! You had no right to add your material to my work. You have no right to continue publishing and selling it. Please stop!

James, you no longer have any right to publish or sell my works. We have no written contracts. We have no formal accounting of royalties. Your habit of sending money and or copies of the items is no longer good enough. Any informal agreements we may have made in 2009 and earlier are terminated on my side of the deal. I no longer wish to associate with you, either professionally or informally.

Find some other outlet for your creativity. Leave me, and leave Tunnels and Trolls, alone. I am rejecting any further association with you.

I hope this is clearly understood. Do not publish anything with my name on it as author. Do not presume to collaborate with me on my projects. Do not keep attempting to infiltrate trollhalla.com under false names--you are banned and unwelcome on that site. Do not attempt to rewrite the history of Tunnels and Trolls on Wikipedia or any other online sources. Do not send me money. Do not send me product. I do not want it from you. However, I am under no legal obligation to send back things that arrive unsolicited in the mail. I won't waste the money or the effort to send them back. I am not interested in theatrical gestures. I simply wish to terminate our association and to move on with other things in life.

I hereby reclaim my rights to anything I ever gave you to publish. In particular, I assert my right to the novel Griffin Feathers which consists entirely of my own work with some input in the short sections of the book from the members of Trollhalla.

I am forwarding the "royalties" that you sent me to Jeff Freels, the artist whose work you have re-used to illustrate this version of Gristlegrim. He deserves compensation for his work.

James, I am not angry at you, and I do not hate you. I simply will not associate with you ever again. For several years we were, I thought, very good friends. Outlaw Press did a lot for Tunnels and Trolls. You know why that time has ended. Let it go. Move on.

James, I will be publishing this letter in open forums on the internet, so that all the world can see how I feel, and how I react to what I can only believe are attempts to manipulate me and to gain control of Tunnels and Trolls. If you have no ulterior intentions, then forgive me for being suspicious, but I no longer feel that I can trust you.

James, you have your own unique style of creativity. Please go and do your own thing, and stop messing with me and with Tunnels and Trolls.


Sincerely,
Ken St. Andre


That's the letter from the owner/creator of Tunnels and Trolls. James has apparently been publishing books again, without paying artists and probably others. It's too bad stuff like this happens, but I wanted to get the word out to those who play the game.
 

bottg

Registered User
Validated User
How the hell does he keep going. Although by now, there must be very few people who don't know about this.
 

Rich H

Owl Be Back!
RPGnet Member
Validated User
This scumbag is unbelievable.

Decent people associated with T&T, especially Ken, have my sympathies.
 

bottg

Registered User
Validated User
As far as i can remember, Shipman was using art he had stolen as covers etc for T&T products. Then his license to print T&T products was revoked, but he kept doing it, even publishing stuff without the authors consent.

He pulled all of the stuff from his site etc. Then it all reappeared on Lulu and amazon. He seems to ignore any entreaties to stop selling T&T stuff, and seems to think it is his right, despite the owner of the IP saying he has no right.

I am sure someone will tidy up the rough edges on that.
 
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