This is a fantastic read. One of my favorite movies (and movie soundtracks), and getting the real perspective on it is fascinating.
Weren’t there missions to sneak into Soviet harbors to plant listening devices on underwater communications cables?The government is entirely open about submarine movements (even though they are classified secret). We only did training missions in international waters (that we got decorated for). I am certain that we never went anywhere that we weren't supposed to be (even though they sometimes kept our exact location secret from most of the crew).
It varied by Fleet.The Red October's hull number is painted on the side of the sail. I don't know if the Soviets painted their hull numbers on the sails, but we didn't.
Heh. It always seems to me that "deterrent" in military usage basically does mean "intimidation". "We're big! We're scary! So don't attack us."As I said in my review of Crimson Tide, though, I have heard that the Russian language has no word for “deterrent.” The closest word that it has is “intimidation.” Since I don't speak Russian, I'm not positive about this, but according to Taross, the Dutch translation comes close to what I heard about Russian, so it could be true.
[obvious joke] Wow, they really tightened the rules for carry-on luggage after 9/11.As a personal aside, the first time I saw this movie was as an in-flight movie on the way to Saudi Arabia for what would become the Gulf War (I). I watched it on a Delta airliner with an M-60 machinegun propped between my seat and the one next to me.
I think you're right here. You don't see very many people on the Dallas. The ones you do see tend to be dressed differently. Jones and his UI are both in dungarees, but Jones always wears his ballcap, while the UI never does. The CoB and the XO both wear khakis, but you don't see them that much. And Mancuso is in his poopy suit.I'm loving this level of nitpicking in these threads. It's a great way to guesstimate where the filmmakers did their research, where they didn't, where they could have but didn't give a shit, and where they may have done their research but deliberately ignored it for the sake of storytelling for a general audience. (I suspect the varying uniforms on the US sub fall in that category, since movie makers hate to stick everyone in identical uniforms.)
Even at the time it was surreal. I was with one of the first units sent over; we were given orders almost immediately. We did not know if the Iraqi army was going to continue into Saudi Arabia, so we drew weapons and ammo. (We got our heavy stuff (tanks, AAVs) later.) We were then bused up to LAX and sent through the airport - again, with full weapons and ammo.[obvious joke] Wow, they really tightened the rules for carry-on luggage after 9/11.
Things were really different before the TSAAs a personal aside, the first time I saw this movie was as an in-flight movie on the way to Saudi Arabia for what would become the Gulf War (I). I watched it on a Delta airliner with an M-60 machinegun propped between my seat and the one next to me.